Album Rating: 2.5

Firebug was spittin'

Album Rating: 4.0

spittin poo and pee yeah

Album Rating: 4.0

[2]

Album Rating: 1.0

Firebug coming in with a well-reasoned argument and getting shot down with either childish insults / nothing of any substance is on-brand for this side of Sput. I'm proud of you all for keeping up the tradition.

Album Rating: 4.0

more tepid jabbing (read: shitposting) at a difference of opinion but in keeping with sput tradition you bumbling into threads and failing the vibe check is certainly on brand



the more serious answer is i only care for firebug's opinion as far as i can throw him, which is to say his opinion is completely inconsequential to my wellbeing (rather than disliking him as a user - i fw him!) so i don't feel the need to provide a substantive response for why he's wrong, but okay fine i'll oblige:



some of his critique is vapid and handwavy. what "glue and spirit" held the first album together that isn't present here? what does "doing whats right" even mean? i certainly understand music is a lot about ~feel~ and he's not writing a thesis on the album but conversely i don't know how to engage with hollow commentary either



the more substantiated points are, in my view, nonsense. musically this sounds like the decade-later evolution of a sub-sub-sub-sub-genre they created, utilizing much of the same dissonance/excessive syncopation/spooky ambient passages/pitch shifting/minor chords and yes chugs (of which there are many on the original). they took those elements and cranked them to 11. i don't know what to tell someone who can't pick up on the stylistic similarities of the two albums with their overt use of melodic/dissonant notes overlaying a syncopated chugging backdrop. the primary difference is this album feels more freeform in its songwriting yet is surprisingly more cohesive with the motifs littered throughout. i don't think this should have been a double album (and it's my primary gripe with it) but a full playthrough gives The Album Experience™ far better than the original. let's not forget the continuing lyrical narrative and thematic consistency with the original or the fact track 8 is a literal homage to it that borders on fan service. i'm not saying this shit is high art but calling it a mislabeled companion piece is dumb/stupid/silly/incorrect/wrong/invalid sorry. frankly i'd argue this is a far better sequel than most bands' attempts



re: grooves and pointless chugs i merely disagree. just off the top of my head nar de du alskar, kaos2, masstadens nationalsang, and heartsmear have lovely groove-n-riff moments but that's also as subjective as it gets so i'm not convincing anyone otherwise



does that suffice you smarmy turd?

Album Rating: 4.0

#pwnd



conversely i don't know how to engage with hollow commentary either [2]

Album Rating: 2.5

Excessive song lengths. Overly convoluted song structures. Excessive tempo shifts. That's what's wrong here, and on the new album. No consistent grooves. Nothing remotely catchy. How no one else sees these flaws is beyond my comprehension.

Some people like those things Tundra lol

Anyone that likes Sleep Token, like Tundra the Sput villain, should never comment on anything else being bad ever.

Album Rating: 4.0

don’t take the tundrabait lads he had this and the new alb rated high originally

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah I’m with beardog, I like those things. I get enough of the other from literally everywhere else. But I understand if someone doesn’t find something to latch onto. Eye of the beholder and all that. Sometimes their stuff falls flat for me too