Defeated Sanity The Sanguinary Impetus
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Pon
Emeritus
August 1st 2021


6187 Comments


Nobody's claiming that Suffocation didn't lay the groundwork for BDM, just that Defeated Sanity aren't an "imitation" of them (and that they're better)

evilford
August 2nd 2021


72221 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I dont agree that they're better personally



Both bands are god-tier. Ultimately in the history of dm and bdm, suffocation is more "important" obvs



I do agree that these guys are far from an imitation tho

evilford
August 2nd 2021


72221 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

But I stand by my statement that while psalms and chapters are close, effigy is the best thing either band has done

DavidYowi
August 4th 2021


3512 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I'm confident this will raise to a 3.9, maybe even a 4. There are a lot of 4.5 for a new release, even when the album was 6 months old it had a lot of 4.5s

Shadowmire
August 4th 2021


6660 Comments


who's gonna rate it to make that happen

Demon of the Fall
August 4th 2021


39907 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

'Nobody's claiming that Suffocation didn't lay the groundwork for BDM, just that Defeated Sanity aren't an "imitation" of them (and that they're better)'

This seems like a more reasonable point of view than claiming these guys are mere imitation - artists can have influences without resorting to imitation and the two bands are pretty distinct.

Yes BDM ultimately came from Suffocation initially (I'm not claiming to be an expert in this sub-genre, but that's pretty clear). Whoever's 'better' is a matter of preference (obviously), but one band shouldn't be ruled out simply because they're not the forefathers of the genre.

Pikazilla
August 4th 2021


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Preferring DS over suffo is like peak plebdom

Demon of the Fall
August 4th 2021


39907 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I don't know that I agree with the preference (yet), but I can definitely see it. One thing I will say is it indicates actually having a modicum of personality, so fair play to Jac.

combustion07
August 4th 2021


13007 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Suffocation>Defeated Sanity. Agreed that both rule and this band isn't a straight imitation by any means. Internal Bleeding is one of my favs in bdm but they get no love round these parts and it's a shame. Same for Mortal Decay. Band rules so much

Shadowmire
August 4th 2021


6660 Comments


very pleb to reject the most generic of takes

DavidYowi
August 4th 2021


3512 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I just listened to Effigy of the Forgotten. Wicked stuff! Not sure what to rate it but I can see how it’s a seminal album and how it helped define bdm.



This and Chapters of Repugnance are better albums

Shadowmire
August 4th 2021


6660 Comments


listen to pierced too

Hyperion1001
Emeritus
August 5th 2021


29901 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

pierced is the GOAT so listen to that one.



and i just want to clarify that i dont think this band is an imitation, just that suffocation did it first AND, in my humble opinion, did it better.



but i mean this was my AOTY for 2020 so i obviously like both. lille gruber is a once in a lifetime level musician.

parksungjoon
August 5th 2021


47226 Comments


i think it would be boring if everyone had the same opinion on everything

combustion07
August 5th 2021


13007 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Agreed on opinions. Gained a new respect for these guys when I saw them live a few years back. Can't remember who they were opening for but the crowd wasn't into them and I was kind of disappointed in my city that night lol

dbizzles
August 5th 2021


15424 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

'Preferring DS over suffo is like peak plebdom'



Consider me King Pleb. No disrespect to Suffocation, their first 3 albums are killer and they were very important. But, I listen to most DS albums more than all of Suffocations albums combined.

bloc
August 5th 2021


70880 Comments


"Preferring DS over suffo is like peak plebdom"

I thought it would be more pleb if it was the other way around

Pon
Emeritus
August 5th 2021


6187 Comments


Damn Pika just filtered himself

Pikazilla
August 5th 2021


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I ain't ever abandoning you jacq

evilford
August 7th 2021


72221 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

So gud



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