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neekafat
Staff Reviewer
December 6th 2018


26263 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

oh

Sowing
Moderator
December 6th 2018


43979 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I felt a disturbance in the force

letsgofishing
December 6th 2018


1705 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

How do you manage 2,471 comments on this site and not hear of Brand New?

Sowing
Moderator
December 6th 2018


43979 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

they're not discussed nearly as much as they were in '08 or '10, and a lot of the discussion is now just overexaggerated accusations and unwarranted, ardent defending of lacey, so I can't blame anyone for avoiding it

Even I barely comment in those threads anymore because it's just not worth it

letsgofishing
December 6th 2018


1705 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Well, Jesse did run a daycare in the 80s where he sacrificed children in occult sex ceremonies

Hawks
December 7th 2018


89161 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Well this is amazing too. 2018 with so many bangers.

Gyromania
December 7th 2018


37168 Comments


yeah i came back to this and enjoy it now. still think mitama is the best song tho

Sowing
Moderator
December 7th 2018


43979 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Hell yeah Hawks!

Hawks
December 7th 2018


89161 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah I’m loving this. Like a lot.



The Canyon, Mitama, Dialogues and Colored Out are standing out as favorites but this is consistently amazing throughout.

mynameischan
Staff Reviewer
December 7th 2018


2407 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yeah this still holds up months later and will be high up on my list. the guitar solo in yume is so damn good

Beardog
December 7th 2018


5257 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I've heard some stuff from Brand New but I couldn't really care for it

Hawks
December 7th 2018


89161 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I mean they’re not exact clones of each other but they’re def similar just based off of what I heard on this album. I love Brand New though so it’s not a bad thing in any way.

Sowing
Moderator
December 7th 2018


43979 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

They began as close to clones as imaginable tbh, but they've really grown over the course of a few albums. I still say these guys have more instrumental talent than BN.

mynameischan
Staff Reviewer
December 7th 2018


2407 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i think i said this a few pages back but there really are times where the singer sounds exactly like jesse lacey

Sowing
Moderator
December 7th 2018


43979 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

His voice definitely sounds closer to Lacey's than anyone else I've heard. With that said I think Jesse has a better lower register (i.e. Lit Me Up) whereas Maggio tends to default to a higher pitch and doesn't sound nearly as brooding or tortured.

The guitarist and drummer for this band both exceed their BN counterparts, however - at least from a technical ability standpoint.

Project
December 7th 2018


5837 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yeah I'm trying to think of BN songs with great drumming and all I've got is Archers

Sowing
Moderator
December 7th 2018


43979 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Anyone can disagree (and feel free to debate here), but Brand New is not an extremely skilled band instrumentally. They are very passionate and know how to convey emotion - their riffs hit at the perfect time, the drums pace things perfectly to set a mood - but they rarely blow you away with raw ability. Jesse's vocals/lyrics are the heart and soul of that band.

For TROW, they're more balanced. In listening to them you sacrifice some of the lyrical gems and brooding, tortured vocals - but you also gain better drumming, guitar work, etc.

Brand New is the better band overall, at least for me because I'm huge on lyrics, and plus they tend to craft more memorable songs/melodies. But TROW is hardly a clone/imitation, as they have unique strengths that trump even certain aspects of Brand New.

letsgofishing
December 7th 2018


1705 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I agree - this band's instrumentals are more intimate and complex but Jesse Lacey is a significantly better songwriter and a far better vocalist. Stellar songwriting will bridge about any gap. There are several great songs that are simple. Even more bad songs which are complex.



With that said, nothing in this band is as entertaining as Vincent Accardi on stage either, even if he is off tune.

Sowing
Moderator
December 7th 2018


43979 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I'm not meaning to imply that complex songwriting trumps simple songwriting at any cost, just that from a raw/technical standpoint The Republic of Wolves have greater ability --- they do not always use said ability quite as well as Brand New, otherwise they'd be more popular than they are.

letsgofishing
December 7th 2018


1705 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah, I was just riffing off what you said. I didn't take you to say that at all. I'm finding your comments spot on, more than anything.



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