Bemis Bemis Bemis Bemis Bemis Bemis Bemis Bemis. You put way too much hope into this man, my fellow sputnikican.

Their music was never that great, I'm not sure why this album is such a shock. It's like the kids that raved this band years ago, have grown up a little and realized wait... this is just recycled, boring, junk juggling shit.

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"Their music was never that great"



Bye.

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"this is just recycled, boring, junk juggling shit. "



Hm, most people that say things like this tend not to know the genre very well, like not at all.



Not the many of the other big names in Pop Punk like TBS, Fall Out Boy, Bayside, Saves the Day, or

Yellowcard sound quite like them. So if this is recycled, then what bands sound like Say Anything

other than Say Anything?

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@Cutman Oh well, I’ll admit it! I am immature. (hahaha) But I've just been responding to this sad/crazy/whatever argument because I wanted to contribute my opinion on that theory. Honestly I don't think they should really factor in though; a musician doesn’t have to be crazy or have the worst situations to write good music – a good musician can make even normally mundane topics interesting. Just like a good novelist, or a painter. It's all about their creativity and emotional depth. However, without enough of those (creativity, emotional depth) in music, you get songs with parts that aren't as INTERESTING (not angsty) as they could be.



I just wanted to argue that point, but I don’t think that’s the real problem with the album. I think that with more work on tying parts together – editing – this could have been much more solid.



To be fair I talked about unhappy things like breakups for the sake of argument, but any good musician reflects thoroughly on whatever emotion they're writing about, good or bad. That’s how actors do it, too. How about the whole feeling of ‘being different’? Everyone goes through some periods of this, er, 'unhappiness' of ‘not fitting in’, and some people prefer to embrace those emotions and their individuality. That's kind of what I would have expected to hear in this album. After trying it after hearing Admit It! I wanted to find some meaning to stick with me like:



“Proud of my life, and the things that I have done. Proud of myself, and the loner I’ve become. You’re free to whine but it will not get you far … I’m doing just fine with my car and my guitar.”



As a loner dissatisfied with the system, unlike the phenomenal Admit It! the songs here didn't connect with me on any meaningful level (Crandynewman got that part right at least). The music itself sounded diluted, and I like both extremes of happiness/unhappiness, but diluted emotions just don't do anything for me. I really do think it is an editing issue more than anything else.

i'm a HUGE say anything fan, but this album is garbage.

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Jesus christ you guys

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@mastille, you're a far more reasonable individual, my beef wasn't with you and I wasn't really thinking of you when I wrote that. *flaps hand* We disagree, but we disagree reasonably.

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hey killerhit, want to take a trivia quiz?

album letdown a staff member

gets a 1

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Ah okay, I did enter the 'crazy/miserable' argument but wasn't sure if I had expressed my point the way I wanted to earlier, brevity is not my friend



Anywho the discussion's been fun, some extreme 2 second comments in between notwithstanding, but that's just the nature of the internet. I can see why genre fans prefer this and non-genre fans dismiss it. In a nutshell I once used to be more of a genre fan and would probably have liked these songs more than I do now, before I narrowed my preferences to more story-like, tightly woven stuff, and found catchy but looser songs much harder to swallow. Ah well.



/leaves thread for jrock and more IARB

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The ride's over, Max. We're at your stop.

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its not that bad quit hatin

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only thing i've heard from these guys is Real Boy, which is a solid 3.



maybe it'd be better if bemis wasn't annoying as fuck and the lyrics weren't painfully corny at times js

I like this album, it's a grower.

It's hit and miss, which initially disappointed me. Though there are some pretty terrible songs, the last two tracks are so good that they almost make it worthwhile. Still the weakest Say Anything album though.

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The Stephen Hawking is definitely like Top 10 SA material

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This album ranges from complete shit to semi decent. The first three songs being the semi decent ones, the rest being the total shit. It's also helped me realize that their only album I really like is Is A Real Boy... which is still just as awesome as it was when I first got into it when I was like 14.

So, this is as bad as Brokencyde? Because that's how people seem to be making it out to be.

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"So, this is as bad as Brokencyde? Because that's how people seem to be making it out to be."



No, but the fact that this is the same band that made Is A Real Boy is kinda shocking which is why people hate this so much. It really does suck.