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manosg
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January 2nd 2015


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"I think a collaboration between Blackmore and Iommi would be awesome."



It seems like a great idea but I don't think Blackmore could ever coexist with a second guitarist haha.

rockandmetaljunkie
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January 2nd 2015


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Because of his playing style or for pure egoistic reasons only ?

danielcardoso
January 2nd 2015


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A little bit of both, in my opinion.

manosg
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January 2nd 2015


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A little bit of both [2]



If we suppose they were about to work on a real group together and not a one-off collaboration, there would definitely be a clash of egos. Blackmore is more or less a control freak and Iommi being as great as he is, has to have an amount of ego as well. I couldn't see them playing live for a long time because Iommi is more about playing songs and Blackmore is more about soloing and improvising.



Putting out a studio effort would be challenging as well considering that the one was all about riffs and the other about melodies and solos.

MrSirLordGentleman
January 2nd 2015


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Iommi played as second guitarist with Brian May, so he can do the same with Blackmore





Also, they already played together for the Rock Aid Armenia version of Smoke on the Water didn't they?

manosg
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January 2nd 2015


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Come on, charities and tributes don't count. Anyone can play with anybody on those and because of that, the outcome is often poor.

rockandmetaljunkie
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January 2nd 2015


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"Also, they already played together for the Rock Aid Armenia version of Smoke on the Water didn't they?"



If that's true I didn't know it. If smn has a link, please post it.

rockandmetaljunkie
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January 2nd 2015


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"the outcome is often poor"



or rather boring, I agree with you Manos.

manosg
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January 2nd 2015


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Yeah man. Clapton for example, has played live with anyone who wears shoes on this goddamn planet and the

end result is nothing to rave about. The real challenge for me would be to release at least one awesome

album and maybe tour for a year successfully.

rockandmetaljunkie
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January 2nd 2015


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"I couldn't see them playing live for a long time because Iommi is more about playing songs and Blackmore is more about soloing and improvising."



I don't think that's entirely true. Both guitarists can improvise. Black Sabbath in their early days were playing gigs that lasted one hour or 90 minutes and the band had written material for only 30 minutes. So they extended the versions of the songs they played. Sabbath wrote most of their songs by improvisation only.



So, I believe both guitarists can understand the concept of jamming and improvising. And in the case that you're correct Manos, I believe that with good willing from both guitarists, that is sth that could be arranged in a matter of seconds. I think it's more about their egos than anything else really.

rockandmetaljunkie
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January 2nd 2015


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"I don't think Blackmore could ever coexist with a second guitarist"



Μεγαλη αληθεια. Ο δασκαλος με τον οποιο καναμε κιθαρα ειχε γνωρισει τον Blackmore το 1998 νομιζω σε μια συναυλια των Blackmore's Night. Ειχαν τραβηξει και μια φωτο οι τρεις τους και μου την εδειξε. Μου ειχε πει οτι γνωριστηκανε μετα τη συναυλια και πιασανε τη κουβεντα για κανα 2ωρο. Μαλιστα ο Blackmore του ειχε δειξει πως επαιζε αυτος τα riff του Smoke on the Water και Burn. Ο δασκαλος μου κυριολεκτικα τον λατρευε σαν κιθαριστα και ακομα τον λατρευει. Αλλα αυτο που καταλαβε μεσα απο αυτο το 2ωρο ειναι οτι επροκειτο για μια πολυ περιεργη περιπτωση ανθρωπου και χαρακτηρα.

manosg
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January 2nd 2015


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Χαχα, ήμουν μέσα σε αυτή τη συναυλία. Από ένα σημείο και μετά όλοι του φώναζαν να παίξει Purple. Πρέπει να είχε φορτώσει ο μάστορας χαχα. Αλλά γενικότερα απ'ότι έχω διαβάσει/δει πρέπει να έχει τρελές ανασφάλειες ο Blackmore και γενικά να είναι πολύ κυκλοθυμικό άτομο. Όλες οι ιδιοφυΐες όμως έχουν τις λόξες τους. Αφού τα κατάφερε ο δάσκαλος και έκατσε μαζί του δυο ώρες, μαγκιά του.



Όσον αφορά στο Smoke on the Water, παίζει να είναι ταυτόχρονα το πιο πολυπαιγμένο αλλά και λάθος παιγμένο riff. Απ'όσο γνωρίζω παίζεται με δάχτυλα, ταυτόχρονα οι δυο χορδές και όχι downpick όπως το παίζουν πολλοί.

Totengott
January 2nd 2015


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Album Rating: 4.5

Ugh, what..

adr
January 2nd 2015


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Child In Time or Starless ?
Discuss

:D


rockandmetaljunkie
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January 2nd 2015


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Child in Time, but it is damn close

manosg
Emeritus
January 2nd 2015


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"Ugh, what.."



heh, it's all Greek!



Long story short, rockandmetaljunkie says that his guitar instructor saw Blackmore live in 1998 and conversed with him for 2 hours. Blackmore showed him how he played Smoke on the Water and Burn and the instructor got the impression that Blackmore is a weird dude.



I replied, that I was in that concert too and I agree that Blackmore is a genius but at the same time insecure and temperamental. Then, I write that Smoke in the Water is played with fingers by strumming the two strings at the same time and that most people play it the wrong way.



here you are ;)

rockandmetaljunkie
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January 2nd 2015


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"Απ'όσο γνωρίζω παίζεται με δάχτυλα, ταυτόχρονα οι δυο χορδές και όχι downpick όπως το παίζουν πολλοί."



Ακριβως. Το δειχνει ο Blackmore στο ντοκιμαντερ Classic Albums πως το επαιξε. Οι συγχορδιες ειναι τέταρτες (η τονικη με τη τεταρτη αντιστοιχη νοτα της) και υπαρχει και ενα slide στο κλεισιμο της φρασης. Αλλα απο βιντεο που εχω δει απο τα live και απο τα αλμπουμ που εχω ακουσει, στο live ο Blackmore πρεπει να επαιζε με τη πενα και downstroke. Αλλα δεν ειμαι σιγουρος.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ttmg25OrbQ



one of my favorite videos



η πλακα ειναι οτι και ο Blackmore σε αυτο το βιντεακι το παιζει λιγο λαθος, αλλα χρησιμοποιει ακουστικη και στις ακουστικες τα slides παιζονται λιγο πιο δυσκολα

rockandmetaljunkie
Contributing Reviewer
January 2nd 2015


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Παντως μικρος που ειναι ο κοσμος ε Μανο ? :P





"Όλες οι ιδιοφυΐες όμως έχουν τις λόξες τους."



Ναι, ολοι τους, τεραστια αληθεια.

MrSirLordGentleman
January 2nd 2015


15343 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, yeah, Acropolis, Athens, Hellenic stuff, Of course!

danielcardoso
January 2nd 2015


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Yeah, keep us in the dark guys ;)



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