Underoath Define The Great Line
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Slex
November 6th 2021


17870 Comments


Its aged wonderfully y'all are wrong

veninblazer
November 6th 2021


20067 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

maybe i'm just a basic bitch but sometimes the simpler written stuff is just where it needs to be, like "the chosen pessimist" is probs my favorite in flames song ever so...

JayEnder
November 6th 2021


22830 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I can still jam TOCS but it doesn't hit the same as it did when I was a teenager.



Will always be jamming Reinventing Your Exit and Dangerous Business tho

veninblazer
November 6th 2021


20067 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

if my brain just stopped evolving musically or some shit that might be why my taste has largely just been an extension of what it was (because look, the shit i look for in music hasn't really changed) and not some radical change like what this entire site seems to have had considering how many stories i hear of evolving tastes across the span of like 10-15 years. but then again maybe my evolution came in a different way, i'm less tolerant of edgy tough-guy schlock like pantera and 5fdp than i used to be.

g40st
November 6th 2021


917 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

TOCS is still near universally considered a genre staple to this day and one of the most influential albums of that era so you all can try to rewrite reality but not on my watch.

KenboSlice
November 6th 2021


3896 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Best album ever



Wrestling is still lame tho

Slex
November 6th 2021


17870 Comments


What g4ost said

Storm In A Teacup
November 6th 2021


47100 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Dont agree with ghost half the time but this is one instance I'm fully supporting his factual statement.

Storm In A Teacup
November 6th 2021


47100 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Look, you guys, just look at it. 😀

onionbubs
November 6th 2021


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i aint out here tryna rewrite reality since not being that into tocs has nothing to do w its influence. plenty of staple albums in the genre i think are fine but not amazing, and even some i dont like, but that doesnt take away its significance to the scene. tocs is more influential than most of my favorite material from the band.



to me tho its just an underoath album largely devoid of what i like about underoath so i dont ever feel compelled to throw it on, w the biggest detractor being spencers vocals. still think its solid tho. always thought it was pretty dope that the album basically ended on a copeland song too (well, until the outro lol). aaron marsh is a treasure on anything he does

momentzuhclarity
November 6th 2021


1493 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Nah. TOCS was great when I was 14 or whatever but it just feels really immature to me now. Only a couple songs hold up, the rest is kinda rough to get through these days. [2]



Agreed. DTGL is like the more memorable brother of Lost. Lost is like the brother that found kratom lmao. Dirty as fuck. I love both records, but not TCOS obvs

nash1311
November 6th 2021


10813 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Momentz I bet you still slap Dear Love in your basement so gtfo of here with that it was cool when I was 14 bs lmao



That said, Jeremy is the only right one:

disambig > LITSOS = DTGL > TOCS > blah



I agree that TOCS and DTGL were both major impacts on their genres and scene but to me LITSOS is a better version of define and disambiguation is just the bands pinnacle

veninblazer
November 6th 2021


20067 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

with the amount of people pulling "it was better when I was a certain age" tropes it makes me wonder if im just slow lol

SaveBandit
November 6th 2021


3417 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

[2] to everything Onion said. I recognize how influential it is and I've got feels for it still, it's rated a 4 (prob really a 3 at this point for me but the extra point for nostalgia) lol. I just never revisit it because the next 3 albums are miles better imo.

nash1311
November 6th 2021


10813 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

TOCS and DTGL are both mood albums for me. Even LITSOS if I’m being real honest. The only thing I regularly listen to by this band is disambiguation

Relinquished
November 6th 2021


50104 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

TOCS is a mood album for me too





a mood if I wanna transport myself to high school trying to getting to that record just to get laid with a gotch chick starting to turn “emo” with the swooping hair



DTGL was the real gamechanger, I was there for 2004 and all that skinny jean post-hardcore wasn’t too attractive for someone already breaking into Meshuggah and Neurosis

veninblazer
November 6th 2021


20067 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Meshuggah's fuckin boring tho

Storm In A Teacup
November 7th 2021


47100 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yes ven i agree

Storm In A Teacup
November 7th 2021


47100 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

But DTGL really was the game changer. In Regards To Myself and the singles dominated the times.

Emim
November 7th 2021


38803 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

This album is a mood album for me too. When I'm in the mood to listen to Underoath's best album.



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