Album Rating: 4.5

Axe to fall feels like their most experimental to me and is my favorite of theirs by a good margin. Some of the guitar work on that album is bonkers. Nothing else was quite like it when it released

Album Rating: 4.6

Can't argue with that.

Album Rating: 4.5

This one feels very cohesive, perhaps their most cohesive?



It’s all just so well done, a band that’s an expert at their craft. They don’t necessarily need to prove their “chops” on this one and seem they’ve focused more on interesting atmospheres and chordal stuff. Excellent addition to an already incredible discography

Album Rating: 4.5

Also love how the production on this just sounds like the band playing in a room, besides the 2nd guitar parts at times. No over the top production, just a clean sound

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good takes all around, and good write up twilight, completely agree



But I think Bloodmoon is probably their most experimental… I guess unless we’re talking about in the context of their discography or just heavy music in general? But even then I feel like Dusk in Us tried to do more weird shit, nothing else in their catalogue sounds quite like Arkhipov Calm, Murk & Marrow or Trigger. Arkhipov Calm in particular is just one of the most batshit performances from everyone involved… and Thousands of Miles Between Us sounds like an apocalyptic take on alt rock just with a post rock build. And I think that those ascending guitar leads on A Single Tear is maybe my favorite thing Kurt has ever done and is certainly an emotional high point for Jacob. Which is kinda weird because it’s not like overly technical or anything, just really damn good songwriting.



I feel like I’m defending Dusk in Us wayyyyy too much, underrated album among a lot of fans imo. Not quite Jane/You Fail Me/AWLWLB level but about on par with this imo. I think a lot of people hate that Eve isn’t on the record and hold that against it. And I also think it’s one of their best songs ever and would for sure beat out the title track or Thousands of Miles Between Us as the best “ballad” but I don’t really think it fits thematically with the rest of the album. I kinda like it as its own separate thing. I mean if there was a single song they recorded during those sessions that could stand on its own as a non album single, it’s that one.

Album Rating: 3.5

dusk is great

Album Rating: 3.5

i always felt axe to fall was overrated as hell



phenomenal opening two tracks though

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And to me this record feels much closer to All We Love production wise than Dusk in Us. That’s one thing I do hold against that record, it’s that the drums specifically lack the power on this an AWLWLB, the low end in general is less audible for so much of it. To me, that and this new one are the best sounding Converge records. Like twilight said, it really just sounds like you’re sitting in the room with them. Not too clean, but clear enough to hear everything that’s going on in any given song no matter how chaotic it’s getting.

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“i always felt axe to fall was overrated as hell”



we’ll get fucking annihilated for that take but I agree. I think it’s a great record but not one of their best, and if we’re being honest, at least from my perspective, the only reason it really stands out is because Wretched World is not only an incredible closer but is also just so insanely different from anything they’ve ever done. But, also when it comes down to it, it just doesn’t feel like a Converge song and I don’t know how much credit we can actually give to the band considering how much it relies on the Genghis Tron guys, I mean it’s literally impossible to even perform it without another guitarist and someone doing them synth parts, plus a different vocalist. And I’m not even bad mouthing Jacob, I adore him, seriously one of my favorite frontmen ever, but even he himself would tell you he can’t sing that. He literally said it himself when we saw them in Chicago and someone shouted it out as a request haha

Album Rating: 4.5

Dusk has some great great songs but it’s easily the weakest record the core 4 have made

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Literally was something like “I can’t fucking sing that man, Mookie is way better than me.”



Then someone shouted out Saddest Day, Nate said it would be bad, and then I saw one of the most violent mosh pits in my life when Kurt started playing that demented opening lol

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@botb

Yeah I just disagree man. I like it a lot more than No Heroes for sure, and I like it more than Axe to Fall but I know I’m probably mostly alone on that.



And I don’t think anyone “hates” it or anything, I just think it’s a very misunderstood record, and I think people shit on the title track too much. The album needed a breather somewhere in the middle there and I think it gets the job done even if it’s not perfect. I’ve said it a million times before but I think if they cut that second verse and just went straight into the heavy outro it would go over better and not be 7 fucking minutes long.

Album Rating: 4.5

Axe got me into the band and hardcore influenced music beyond metalcore/deathcore. I still find it has a lot of the most memorable songs in the band's discog imo

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I think I can confidently do this now, after jamming this probably at least 30 times over the weekend and today.



11. Halo in a Haystack (3.5/5)

10. No Heroes (4/5)

9. When Forever Comes Crashing (4/5)

8. Bloodmoon: I (4/5)

7. Petitioning the Empty Sky (4.5/5)

6. Axe to Fall (4.5/5)

5. The Dusk In Us (4.5/5)

4. Love is Not Enough (4.5/5)

3. Jane Doe (5/5)

2. All We Love We Leave Behind (5/5)

1. You Fail Me (5/5)



Personally I like the redux more but both versions are pretty much flawless. Tbh I think the top 3 are all as close to perfect as it gets… that said I much prefer the regular edition of AWLWLB, I didn’t have the “bonus” tracks on the CD when I first owned it and didn’t even know they existed until streaming really took off. I think the song transitions are actually fucking amazing, and it does make me wonder if that’s just how the record was always supposed to be despite being the “deluxe edition”, I just think it works better as a shorter album. No Light Escapes, Runaway, and On My Shield are all great songs but:

1. I think the album flows better when going straight from the savagery of Shame in the Way to the eerie beauty of Precipice and

2. I also think the title track works better as a penultimate song, I love how quickly it all fades out before we get into the sludge-fest that is Predatory Glow.

Album Rating: 4.0

Whoever said this is Converge boiled down to their essence is right on. This feels like Converge working with only their basic elements, but in a very good way. The album flow is also legit. I say this as someone Who loved Blood Moon and desperately wants Part II of that. Love Is Not Enough is a very good album.

Don't like the Axe to Fall slander in this thread, though! That is their best album! The heavy stuff for the first 3/4 is absolutely insane! The final, slowed down songs are some of the best music 2009 produced. Just an incredible full-length.

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I adore it but it’s so far from being my favorite man. I think that a couple of those heavy first 3/4ths are also… not that good. Damages is flat out one of their weakest songs and it’s one of the longer ones here too. Also don’t love Wishing Well, and it doesn’t help that it’s back to back with my least favorite song on the record.



Everything else is pretty fire tho imo

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Wild if the Converge boner doesnt die down after a month i think you will need a doctor or a concert



Love how much you love this and the band tho

this really gets cookin after the interlude, first half felt like shit I've heard from them 100 times before but the second is great. Force Without Presence is filthy

Album Rating: 4.5

Glad the Axe defenders are rising up

Album Rating: 4.0

"Axe got me into the band and hardcore influenced music beyond metalcore/deathcore"



Same. AtF was the first album since my early forays into heavy music where I was like "wtf is this"



Goated album. Dark Horse might be my favourite Converge