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nash1311
November 5th 2021


10815 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Hard [2] on Durrzo's post

veninblazer
November 5th 2021


20067 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

i'm gonna keep this brief because this is a bit draining; a lot of times i feel a need to over-explain things when i believe i'm not getting my point across properly otherwise. the reality is id rather just coexist but it feels like i can't because i feel alienated being alone on a lot of topics, and i was always told if i didn't defend myself that i'd be a coward for not doing so.

sometimes i cannot just sit idly by even if i stopped defending my "shit takes" tho, soooo

Ryus
November 5th 2021


37885 Comments


yea ur a coward if someone calls ur taste shit and u dont respond. but just post their 5s like i do and go about your day

Relinquished
November 5th 2021


50105 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

if you’re alone on an opinion there’s nothing wrong with that, just as there’s nothing wrong with defending it



and there’s a fuckin fine line between being consistent in an argument and incessant

Relinquished
November 5th 2021


50105 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

“sometimes i cannot just sit idly by even if i stopped defending my "shit takes" tho, soooo”



and this shit isn’t cute. you’ll have a problem with that here and irl. if it falls to deaf ears or you continue to press, you’ll be asked to kindly fuck off. after that it won’t be nice. we’re past that last part

veninblazer
November 5th 2021


20067 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

well i mean i only respond when responded to so if that means i'm incessant that's probably more of an indictment on who i'm responding to.

"and this shit isn’t cute. you’ll have a problem with that shit here and irl. if it falls to deaf ears or you continue to press, you’ll be asked to kindly fuck off. after that it won’t be nice." yes because i should just be silent when accused of being a fucking rape apologist (on literally zero grounds, no less) or something else that'd potentially ruin my future.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
November 5th 2021


30304 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i'm gonna keep this brief because this is a bit draining; a lot of times i will feel a need to over-explain things when i feel i'm not getting my point across properly otherwise.



After a certain point, you need to learn when to stop. I actually think you’re very articulate and get your point across fine. I think your issue is that even when you make a good argument (for your POV on something) and it doesn’t change that other person’s mind, you a)take it too personally (maybe) and b) are perhaps confused as to how, even when you’ve thoroughly explained yourself, they don’t still don’t feel the same.



The reality is id rather just coexist but it feels like i can't because i feel alienated being alone on a lot of topics



I don’t understand why you think coexisting isn’t possible when people have differing opinions. Sure, if it’s something like politics yes, that makes it hard, but music? There is literally nobody in this thread that feels the way about shitty raw black metal like I do. But we do have a lot of other stuff in common. Maybe focus on what you have in common with people and when you do have the slight difference of opinion, it won’t seem so jarring b/c you now you’ll still have common ground.



and i was always told if i didn't defend myself that i'd be a coward for not doing so.



Whoever told you that is deeply entrenched in some toxic masculinity BS. Yes, you need to stand your ground in certain situations, but here, nobody will think different of you if you just ignore the negativity and keep pushing.





TheSpirit
Emeritus
November 5th 2021


30304 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

who did you defend that you're of being referred to as a rape apologist now?



also i'll probably be done w/this convo soon. venin, i don't think you're a bad person at all, and i hope that despite everyone's differences here you can see that while we all don't get along, there's actually a bunch of people trying to help you move forward right now. you're not as alienated as you think.

veninblazer
November 5th 2021


20067 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

nobody, someone just dug into my 5's when i called to attention transphobic fred durst lyrics, and thought because of two of my 5's that i'm a rape apologist lmfao

TheSpirit
Emeritus
November 5th 2021


30304 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i genuinely don't even think it's possible for your ratings on sputnikmusic.com to be weaponized against you in any meaningful way in the future

Ryus
November 5th 2021


37885 Comments


having an alter bridge 5 automatically lowers your credit score by 50 points

veninblazer
November 5th 2021


20067 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

i sure as hell hope you're right spirit, then the people who mistakenly think ronnie is still in etf or is even on the album i 5'd would just be wasting their time trying to ruin me by claiming i defend rape

SteakByrnes
November 5th 2021


31061 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

When you apply for jobs they specifically ask for your sputnikmusic account

tyman128
Emeritus
November 5th 2021


4898 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I had to include it in my college application and lost half a scholarship for having Brand New 5’d because I was trying too hard

veninblazer
November 5th 2021


20067 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

i mean- there's been people who got their livelihoods fucked (granted, the case i have as an example is far more justifiable, as he was making gross homophobic comments on a forum) based on forum posts years ago, such as ex-WWE talent Lars Sullivan...in his case it was legit and had a basis, but any accusation has the potential of screwing someone's life up if not dealt with quick, regardless of validity.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
November 5th 2021


30304 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

he actively wrote vile shit, he didn't rate an ETF album a 5..... those things aren't even in the same ballpark... or state... or country...or continent

Durrzo
November 5th 2021


3653 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"accused of being a fucking rape apologist"



The only reason most of us have any awareness of this is because you keep bringing it up and frankly it's really weird that you think it's a big deal or that it could somehow ruin your career. Like a single comment on a fucking music forum site could have that power. Is your sputnik profile tied to your linkedin? Why do you keep (again, note the pattern?) going on about this?

veninblazer
November 5th 2021


20067 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

and because it kept being brought up when i personally felt it was unneeded especially as Ronnie had been out of the band for years by the time the self-titled dropped, and i know if, assuming my aspirations come true, the media got wind of my profile (which they likely would) they'd dig into my comments and find these arguments and ask me about them years after i'd (hopefully) moved on from this site.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
November 5th 2021


30304 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

firstly..... idk, that is all very far-fetched





secondly, just ask for comments and ratings wipe when/if you leave if you're truly that concerned

Relinquished
November 5th 2021


50105 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

it’s gotta be wonderful to be that egotistical jfc



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