In a funny way that song is kind of a microcosm of this band. Nostalgia for a simpler time and wishing things had stayed the same, like back when the lead singer wasn't a fucking child rapist. The end of innocence indeed.

Album Rating: 4.0

yeah dude the bridge and that little riff just gets me every time. Honestly these dudes were my favourites as a teen so it is fucking painful to think about, so I just try and think about the memories associated with the tunes rather than the path Ian went down a few years later.

Album Rating: 3.0

I only heard their stuff after Watkins got jailed and I can still appreciate the musical qualities in it

Yeah, I just spun this album for the first time since that shit went down. It still holds up.

honestly wasn't impressed enough by the one album i knew to shake the uncomfortable reality of ian watkins being a shitbag

These guys have never been good

It's a time and place thing. But there are some serious jams on this thing.

i'd say Liberation Transmission was alright, but nothing really worth returning to.

“Wait what the fuck happened with Don Broco? And I can justify Brand New now because I'm not streaming them on Spotify, therefore my listen doesn't count for ANY future revenue in Jesse's pockets.”

Don Broco's vocalist took a girl who was intoxicated back to his hotel room after a show they played, and made her perform sex acts on his friends that were there and threatened to kick her out if she didn’t do said sex act (she also had no idea where she was), and then one Slam Dunk started feeling up a girl's breasts without consent after he saw through her top that she had her nipple's pierced. The band responded to this by hiding behind legal action in order to scare the victim into retracting her statement.

I brought it up because people on here have justified listening to both Brand New and Don Broco on here in spite of what they’ve done, and the fact that people are justifying listening to Lostprophets in spite of what Ian Watkins did makes the fact that people also listen to BN and DB too (as those aren’t AS bad) not so surprising.

This is just something I feel is important since things like this keep happening, and we can’t keep supporting bands who do this stuff because we 'like the music' if we want to make it clear that this behaviour is unwelcome in the music scene. I mean, people were so quick to condemn Front Porch Step for what he did (and rightfully so), but as soon as Jesse Lacey does pretty much exactly the same thing as he did, everyone’s like 'separate the art from the artist guys'.

progress is a better album, but this still has some jams on it

@Kurai: Yeah and I mean nobody here really gave a shit about the PWR BTTM incident if their averages have anything to say for it.

I have both this and Prog at a 4, but I think I still prefer this over it

FSOP has creative instrumentation, but Ian's vox bring those songs down a bit; and the band should have kept Mike Chiplin on drums.

Album Rating: 3.0

"This is just something I feel is important since things like this keep happening, and we can’t keep supporting bands who do this stuff because we 'like the music' if we want to make it clear that this behaviour is unwelcome in the music scene. I mean, people were so quick to condemn Front Porch Step for what he did (and rightfully so), but as soon as Jesse Lacey does pretty much exactly the same thing as he did, everyone’s like 'separate the art from the artist guys'."



I don't have to do shit. I don't fucking care if Adolf Hitler made a fucking album, if it's good music, I'll listen to it. And nobody is going to guilt trip me into not doing so.



It's 100% okay to not listen to bands with horrible band members anymore and you shouldn't be judged for doing so. The same can be said for those of us who separate the art from the artist. We don't deserved to be judged or guilted for doing so and fuck off if you encourage that behavior.

Album Rating: 2.0

“FSOP has creative instrumentation, but Ian's vox bring those songs down a bit; and the band should have kept Mike Chiplin on drums.”



yep even if he wasn’t a pedo he’d still be a shit singer

90% of the time when people say a singer sucks I'm bound to disagree, but I'm not sure if I want to try and dispute this because it'd require me to actually listen to Lostprophets.

He sounds like every generic nu metal tinged alt rock vocalist from around this time. Doesn't stand out in a good or bad way.

Better melodies and hooks though. Plus those backing vocals were really good.

Yeah, that's what i remembered from the time I actually gave them years ago. nothing outstanding but nothing bad either from a purely sonic perspective.

Ew.