The National Trouble Will Find Me
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mryrtmrnfoxxxy
May 6th 2023


16952 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Lemonworld best song HV yup same

climactic
May 6th 2023


22921 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

crazy take

Pikazilla
May 6th 2023


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Lemonworld >>>>>>>>>>> Sorrow agreed

tectactoe
May 6th 2023


9228 Comments


Not sure I’d place Lemonworld over Sorrow but it’s definitely top 3 on HV, along with probably either Bloodbuzz or Conversation 16 (I’d have a harder time choosing between those two tbh)

JohnnyoftheWell
May 6th 2023


64287 Comments


Those four + England are that album's top tier for sure
Alligator was the National's Speak Now

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
May 6th 2023


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 4.2

Conversation 16, England, Bloodbuzz, Afraid of Everyone, and Little Faith are the best on HV imo

climactic
May 6th 2023


22921 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

terrible love, england, bloodbuzz, conv 16, vanderlyle

JohnnyoftheWell
May 6th 2023


64287 Comments


Vanderlyle is arse and probs the worst song there. Afraid of Everyone and Little Faith, while dec on their own terms, are a definitive example of album-defining average - like, they *are* HV perhaps more than any other track, but putting them on the top shelf if like claiming that Breathe is a highlight on DSOTM

Colton
May 6th 2023


16757 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Vanderlyle and Breathe are both highlights fucking dingus

DoofDoof
May 6th 2023


17300 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Vanderlyle is a classic to me, their best closer.



Watching it live the first time I caught the band cemented it.



Ranked/Rated HV would go like:



1. Sorrow [5/5]

2. Lemonworld [5/5]

3. Conversation 16 [5/5]

4. Vanderlyle [5/5]

5. Bloodbuzz [4.5/5]

6. England [4.5/5]

7. Terrible Love [4.5/5]

8. Runaway [4.5/5]

9. Anyone's Ghost [4/5]

10. Afraid of Everyone [3.5/5]

11. Little Faith [3.5/5]



For me the slight weakness is tracks 3-5, why it's only my third favourite National album. The three worst songs all back to back.

theBoneyKing
May 6th 2023


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

HV is all 5/5s, only album with that honor imo

Colton
May 6th 2023


16757 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Sorrow is the worst on HV, Little Faith is close

Ryus
May 6th 2023


37885 Comments


sorrow is not the worst wtf

for me it's probably afraid of everyone or england

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
May 6th 2023


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 4.2

Afraid of Everyone was amazing live and more intense, made me love it even more. The alt. version of Terrible Love is so much better than the original and their best song imo

JohnnyoftheWell
May 6th 2023


64287 Comments


Vanderlyle has probably the most vapid climax in the National discog (closely rivalled by Runaway) and by far the weakest lyrics on HV. Sorrow does well not to lean on trite structural crutches and its writing is perf for what it is

Sunnyvale
Emeritus
May 6th 2023


6510 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5





My approximate ranking:



1. Bloodbuzz Ohio

2. Lemonworld

3. Vanderlyle Crybaby Geeks

4. Sorrow

5. Runaway

6. Little Faith

7. Conversation 16

8. Afraid Of Everyone

9. Terrible Love

10. Anyone's Ghost

11. England

DoofDoof
May 6th 2023


17300 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

'All our lonely kicks are getting harder to find

We'll play nuns versus priests until somebody cries'



I hate those lyrics, the way they scan, the melody, delivery, everything. A dirge and goofy in a bad way. Rest of 'Little Faith' is ok but that chorus is clunkier than the worst of 'Alligator', don't like it at all.



I know it's specific, but that's the low point of the album ;P

cylinder
May 6th 2023


4362 Comments


I will never understand the love for Lemonworld. Easily the most disposable track from all of Alligator, Boxer and High Violet



DoofDoof
May 6th 2023


17300 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

The lyrics alone are top tier.



Then Matt's delivery which he described as 'third day with a head cold' or something like that, they're perfect for that song.

YoYoMancuso
Emeritus
May 6th 2023


19776 Comments

Album Rating: 4.7

@cylinder i feel the exact same way about Runaway. That song is First Two Pages levels of boring



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