What’s ur take on the noises at the very end of no control after the dope ass heavy rock break? Sounds like someone making weird cartoony noises in the shower or something, mixed with maniacal laughter it’s fucking weird haha

inner crevasses lmaoooo

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I love it personally.



So many creepy moments on the album.

album can trigger some strange beliefs/emotions in people like mattbla up there, which to me is super interesting

my fav creepy thing is when I grow up I wanna be a heretic

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yeah that moment is chilling...one of the main reasons Lit Me Up climbed into my top 3 SF songs

@aiwaz it’s the way it’s delivered in the song, with the drop out of the music mixed with the dissonant choir, absolutely chilling

Another great moment is in 137 when the voice is like “if there wasn’t a war going on this place would look pretty nice”

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Butt, sowing - sorry if i wasn't clear. I basically wondered, if the subject of science fiction as used in the album can be interpreted as relating to a specific genre (and thus to the said films) or only as a point of metaphorical departure, so to say. Precisely: are references to movies worth analysing, or do they only lead us to different dimensions of understanding the title. I don't think I can express myself more clearly.

PS. In the fragment quoted by Butt, I enlisted a few possible understanding of the metaphor itself, but not of SF as a genre

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"are references to movies worth analysing"

probably not

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Agreed

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Something I totally missed out on until now:



"Sealed to Me":

You gonna cast me away into outer darkness

Cause I couldn't cover rent

To stay at God's apartment?



"Could Never Be Heaven"

My daughter's shoulders are my shoulders

My son's hands my hands

My wife's heart my own heart

I've heard the outer darkness is really nice this time of year



Both songs reference this 'outer darkness.' In "Sealed to Me" he's talking about the gates of Heaven being sealed because of the way he's behaved, and he feels he's not a good enough person to be accepted into the kingdom of heaven (another sentiment echoed on 'Lit Me Up' when he talks about climbing over the wall/not being on the list). So being cast into the outer darkness would be akin to being cast into hell. Then on "Could Never Be Heaven" he says the outer darkness is really nice this time of year; has he like, accepted his damnation? What are your thoughts? Because he also references his family and the title of the song makes it seem like he's just saying heaven couldn't be what it's built up to be without them in his life.

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I'm with you sowing. I think the damnation theme has been present since Daisy. I felt that on Noro, Jesse acknowledged that he was damned, but still felt angry about it. Selaed To Me seemed to be a more somber acknowledgement, and with Could Never Be heaven has fully accepted his damnation. that's my weird timeline for it anyway. I personally feel both interpretations of Could Never Be Heaven are correct.

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But the part that still confuses me then is the end of "Sealed to Me":



Storm on the bay

We all drift away

Your kingdom never comes

I ain't no chosen one



Heart stops beating

Float through the ceiling

Those gates won't be

Sealed to me



He says the gates won't be sealed when his heart stops beating. I feel like he's drawing attention to his attempts at change & improvement - the fact that he's left his ways of old behind (all the shit that just got exposed last November from his Deja days), and has settled down & married, had children, (which is echoed by the family lines from "Could Never Be Heaven"), gone to therapy, worked on his addictions, etc. He's saying that what was once out of reach is no longer so; it may not be guaranteed, but it isn't sealed against him either.

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hm, good point. The last line is difficult to parse out in my timeline. Perhaps taking the therapy theme into account it could be seen as Noro was the low point and Sealed to Me is the coming back from that to a better place and Could Never be Heaven could be more about his family. I'll need to listen to those 3 tracks in a row and see how the themes correlate. Now you've got the wheels spinning.

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What you said makes sense. I doubt they're meant to be a trilogy but thematically I totally follow your logic.

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Such a damn good album, what a way to go out.



Wish we had had a 'Sealed to Me' recording, oh well

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damnation theme has been present since TDAG and thats the album directly after Deja which was apparently the time period he was gettin nudes from an underage girl hmmmmmmm

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Yeah I'm certain there's a correlation. I'm sure he has other regrets besides that as well so that makes for a pretty bleak outlook on religion/the afterlife. I'm just glad he (apparently) took steps to improve himself, even if it's too little too late.

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"Lit Me Up" overtook "Sowing Season" for their best opener. Such a chillingly brilliant tune.

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"Lit Me Up" overtook the rest of their songs as best song.

Oops, too far?

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I'm only half-joking

even though this is my fav record by them, I'd still have to go with limousine or luca