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parksungjoon
June 12th 2020


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

also, had forgotten but just jammed it again tonight and it still rips



nocturnus' the key came out in 1990 dude



fucks all over this like cmon

ElioG
June 12th 2020


805 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, The Key and the next one are very good albums. Of course they cannot even touch Symbolic but I dig them.

Demon of the Fall
June 12th 2020


39136 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Pantera? Fuck me.

Let’s just say that something being accessible doesn’t automatically make it worse, but I think that should be obvious.

parksungjoon
June 12th 2020


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

sure



but usually things are accessible *because* they are diluted

Demon of the Fall
June 12th 2020


39136 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This isn’t diluted in the slightest though. Sure there’s heavier or purer DM I guess, but it still carries its essence whilst bringing other things to the table.

parksungjoon
June 12th 2020


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

> This isn’t diluted in the slightest though



have you never listened to human or itp

Shadowmire
June 12th 2020


6660 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

check more dm [2]

Demon of the Fall
June 12th 2020


39136 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

‘Diluted’ has negative connotations, this alters the formula. No it isn’t ‘pure’ OSDM, but genres develop, they change, and this is a brilliant example of progressive metal perfected by one of DM’s premier forebearers.

Fair enough if you prefer other interpretations, or you don’t like the direction this took, but implying this is watered-down in any way is just absurd imo.

This might be controversial, but the more I think about it, the more I consider artists/albums that fuse genres or ideas to be the greatest. Now of course the process of musical evolution will always have this (to an extent) and not everything has to be ‘progressive’ by some arbitrary definition.



tl;dr - I’d rather listen to bands pushing boundaries than unfiltered ‘pure’ versions of tried and tested formulas. Death did that, many times. This just happens to represent a move further away from their DM roots, one which also happens to be fairly accessible. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a fully-fledged, intricately crafted masterpiece.

parksungjoon
June 12th 2020


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

> No it isn’t ‘pure’ OSDM, but genres develop, they change, and this is a brilliant example of progressive metal perfected by one of DM’s premier forebearers.



demon



every single album i listed there



is more progressive and/or more technical than this



theyre not pure osdm. if you listen you will hear





fitting that my twenty thousandth post should be arguing with death fans for the millionth time on this account

Shadowmire
June 12th 2020


6660 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

good rock n roll album agreed

Dreamflight
June 12th 2020


2452 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

This is awesome but yeah it is kinda accessible though...I am not crazy on death metal and I love this.

ElioG
June 12th 2020


805 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Iraqi death metal is da best, shits all over Chuck and Gene. Just do your research, I cannot do it all for you.

Shadowmire
June 12th 2020


6660 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

simply make a research

ElioG
June 12th 2020


805 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, and then, listen after listen, Symbolic will drop to 1.0.

evilford
June 13th 2020


71757 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Yall slippin

GhandhiLion
June 13th 2020


17793 Comments


close enough

https://youtu.be/il063QVanCY

evilford
June 13th 2020


71757 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

I went thru a phase a few years back, thinking this album wasnt the greatest. But there is a magic to it that literally no other dm album has been able to create on that level. The lyrics throughout the album rule and the instrumentation matches the themes in the music on an epic level. Yeah sure there are albums that are more technical, or better produced, or have better vox, or MAYBE have better riffs but I literally dont give a fuck, when chuck yells DO YOU REMEMBER WHENNNN, THINGS SEEMED SO ETERNALLLL, HEROES WERE SO REALLLL, THEIR MAGIC FROZEN IN TIME and countless other moments on this album give me goosebumps and rule hardddd, if they dont for you dam that sucks bruh rip chuck I'm out

ElioG
June 13th 2020


805 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I don't know about ford but that's my evil!

FR33L0RD
June 13th 2020


6400 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

There is some truth about the music/magic in this LP.



btw, great discussion with many valid points from many sides.

Lots of music knowledge in here, undeniable fact,

a fucking great ressource for all, me first, thats cool i think.

Hell Yeah!!! m/ guys!

Scoot
June 13th 2020


24179 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

it's the best metal album ever written imo



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