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fogza
August 19th 2023


10224 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Sona it actually it matters to me if people have access to my user account on any platform, even if is an old creaky site like sputnik. It actually really bothers me

robertsona
Emeritus
August 19th 2023


28660 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Colton didn’t hack the fucking site oh my god, he’s said so so many times. In which case you just want an apology for his dumb I-did-it troll act, and SilentPotato should give an apology first in that case because he’s done way worse things, many times over. Do you need proof that Colton didn’t hack it?

fogza
August 19th 2023


10224 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Where did he say he didn't hack it? I'm only aware of him saying he did

robertsona
Emeritus
August 19th 2023


28660 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I did not hack the site lmao



it's amazing how easily you can get people to fall for that by stringing together a blob of nonsense tech jargon





But then everyone started taking it so seriously and it started to seem like… the ultimate bit?

but it appears that it has genuinely caused some vexation which was not my intention, I didn't think anyone would take it serious



in reality I love sputnik and think in spite of being very dated and old and having a questionable community sometimes it is a beautiful site and I would not actually do anything to harm it



been on there since ‘09

robertsona
Emeritus
August 19th 2023


28660 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

i said something about performing an injection attack on the web tokens which triggered infinite requests to be sent to the server so it crashed



this is like saying "i crashed my glovebox into a brake check while i was refilling my left turn"



It make no sense lol



only ryus clocked that

Trebor.
Emeritus
August 19th 2023


60329 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

colton is Mr. Robot

fogza
August 19th 2023


10224 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Ok, well it's not a satisfying answer but I guess you're right then, he did say he didn't do it. I am going to butt out of this one, i should just leave well enough alone.

robertsona
Emeritus
August 19th 2023


28660 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

SilentPotato leading the moral charge on how to behave well on the internet is actual gold

robertsona
Emeritus
August 19th 2023


28660 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

“Apologize for what you’ve done…” like truly braindead

JohnnyoftheWell
August 19th 2023


64287 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

lol Colton has confirmed and denied so many things to so many different people (including via dms, on both fronts) and has kept such increasingly bad faith with practically everyone on sput (as this thread has shown) that it's entirely reasonable to ask for proof (which those messages 100% are not)

but more importantly, I don't have the energy or inclination to egg on a whodunnit or a witch hunt over this again tbh - p much everyone has accepted at this stage that the issue of Colton being wilfully agitative has eclipsed the issue of did-he-do-it, and imo it's hella tenuous and a little undignified to once again relocate those poor fucking goalposts to whataboutism over past Pots posts that went suspiciously unremarked upon at the time of posting rather than deal with the situation + people's very unambiguously declared feelings on their own terms.



Don't even have a horse in the race at this point, but if it's clear that the site community as we know and love them is q understandably sick of Colton, maybe not the most tactful to respond that they should be dragging their own behaviour instead of airing their beef

robertsona
Emeritus
August 19th 2023


28660 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

It’s lame though if you zoom out from whatever ethical structure the site has. I’m not cool with Pots taking on that mantle and will call it out. Unless you draw all your analysis of power and shit from Sputnikmusic.com the stuff he has done is way worse, and he is taking moral high ground, and that’s hypocrisy, and I call out hypocrisy.

robertsona
Emeritus
August 19th 2023


28660 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

like there has to be accountability. Menace for years including in some demonstrably very bad ways, hasn’t paid for it at all, now playing lawyer and demanding apologies. 0/10, won’t stand for it



“What-aboutism” irrelevant concept when dude in question is playing lawyer/ethics consultant. All the people with like one foot planted in the real world and get what I’m saying probably have been bullied off the site by people like pots

Colton25
August 19th 2023


31 Comments


the concept of "whataboutism" is a funny one. is it a valid critique of people who deflect criticism of themselves through unrelated points about the actions of others? or is it just a way of preventing anyone from ever pointing out examples of blatant hypocrisy? I think it's more often the latter. "oh shit, someone just exposed the fact that I myself am guilty of the very thing I'm criticizing? if only there was a one word defense I could use to absolve myself"

"lol Colton has confirmed and denied so many things to so many different people (including via dms, on both fronts)"

like what

"everyone has accepted at this stage that the issue of Colton being wilfully agitative"

have you ever met you

"whataboutism over past Pots posts that went suspiciously unremarked upon at the time of posting"

this proves mine and robert's point though. it's hard to take anyone's character judgements seriously when they're so clearly disingenuous and extremely selective. it has to have some level of consistency in order to mean anything

Colton25
August 19th 2023


31 Comments


robert is genuinely the realest user on this site i wish everyone was more like him

JohnnyoftheWell
August 19th 2023


64287 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

dude come on, call it zooming out if you like, but reducing the discussion to Pots "taking on the mantle" when doing so kinda erases the specifics of everything norma, Sint and fogza have expressed in these pages (and however many others have elsewhere). the real issue here is Pots being hypocritical for taking the same line as them? there was (perhaps still is) a time and place for that discussion, but this ain't it

Colton25
August 19th 2023


31 Comments


and why isn't it? why is it not a relevant point to make that a person criticizing others for something means a lot less if they themselves are guilty of the same thing, or far worse? that's just how life works, you're responsible for your own actions and you don't get to have it both ways, it's called accountability

robertsona
Emeritus
August 19th 2023


28660 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

If Sputnik is really in a sad state or dead and knowing how discussion sites work I think we can be honest over a very large scale of time about whether “Colton” (metonym) or “SilentPotato” (metonym) is more to blame. But I can guess we can push off “that conversation” and have this one, again, again

pizzamachine
August 19th 2023


28282 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Y’all really can’t get along to save your lives can ya

Sinternet
Emeritus
August 19th 2023


26909 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

because someone who has done some pretty messed up things beforehand calling other people out doesn't invalidate the fucking point, why are we resurecting this discussion again



95% of this site is sick of colton's shit and bringing it down to the fact one speciifc person also is sick of this and may have done stupid things as well is invalidating the fact that everyone else is sick and tired



sona we have had this discussion like fifty times now both in discord and sput and each time you are the only person who defends colton. everyone else is tired of this. you can talk to colton by yourself all you want and no one has anything against that, but you seem to get pissed at the fact that no one else wants anything to do with him - other people are allowed to not want to talk to someone

robertsona
Emeritus
August 19th 2023


28660 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I just don’t like the idea that misogyny and racism or instrumentalizing people’s looks/identity/real life details to insult them, all over the course of many years, is better or more acceptable than a fake site hack troll act. That’s the message I’m getting from the thread and your responses. I’m not sure you could do much to show me that’s not the idea here



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