You can basically call every band on planet earth a rip-off of another band if you dig deep enough.

Album Rating: 2.5

Yes im serious. All these guys did was take the Groove oriented direction of Industrial music that Streetcleaner pioneered and made it safer for the mainstream by simplifying it and adding in catchier choruses. Throwing away all of the nihilism and noisy dynamics that made the album interesting and phoning in on what was the easiest aspects to rip off.

I mean, I can see where you're coming from...

...but this still rules.

Album Rating: 2.5

Source pls get onto Skinny Puppy and Coil at least, Last Rites, VivisectVi, and The Ape of Naples are some of my favorite albums of all time.

Album Rating: 4.5

Eventually

Album Rating: 4.5

Just heard some dude cranking Replica

Album Rating: 5.0

Dope. So rare to here people ripping good music. m/

Album Rating: 4.0

Nice. It’s always fun to find people who like similar music to you.

Album Rating: 4.5

Just heard some dude cranking Replica



Replica is a 90's anthem. You can't deny that

Album Rating: 4.5

It's pretty good yeah

Album Rating: 4.0

The ending of Pisschrist is too good

Album Rating: 4.5

I'd love to see my teenage me feeling disappointed after listening to Pantera and fear factory. I remember watching sepultura as the support for iron maiden and I HATED IT

Album Rating: 4.0

"Groove oriented direction of Industrial music that Streetcleaner pioneered"

Industrial music was groovy way before Godflesh were a thing. SLAB!, Killing Joke and Swans were already "groovy".

Bringing up Electro industrial artists is meaningless. FF have more in common with Helmet and Pantera lol.

Album Rating: 2.5

Killing Joke were more Post-Punk and Swans were more No Wave. I was talking as in Groove Metal oriented direction, not Groovy Punk stuff. Im aware of the obvious influence that Swans had on Streetcleaner. Godflesh were pretty much the band that were the predecessors to the Groove Metal styled Industrial of the 90s, Fear Factory were the bad mainstreamified version that helped Industrial become as degraded as it did.

Album Rating: 2.5

Also how is this Electro-Industrial as opposed to Industrial Metal?

Album Rating: 4.0

Killing Joke and Swans are both awesome. Just throwing it out there.

Album Rating: 4.0

Skinny puppy are the mainstreamified version of Cabaret Voltaire and Suicide.

and so on and so on....



Why are you crying about the "mainstreamisation" of genres when you have Bad Religion and The Get Up Kids in your 5s? No hate on Bad Religion but they are not exactly Bad Brains are they?

Album Rating: 4.5

shhhhh, you're making too much sense

Album Rating: 2.5

Bad Religion and The Get Up Kids were slightly more mainstream than what they were influenced by but they still were able to live up to their respective influences in some way. Fear Factory dont is the point. They fail to grasp at what made an album like Streetcleaner work and instead just take its simplicity, make it even more simplistic and then add poppy choruses and a bunch of background synths that fail to break up the monotony of their sound. Skinny Puppy are an easier band to digest than Suicide and Cabaret Voltaire sure but they still maintain a lot of the sonic experimentation of those bands and even then an album like Last Rites is still nowheres near as accessible as this is.



I criticize Fear Factory for "mainstreamifying" Godflesh because I fail to see how they did anything that wasnt just taking off the easiest aspects to copy from Streetcleaner without understanding that the albums simplistic riffs were feeding into the noisy dynamics and oppressive atmosphere of it. Demanufacture feels more like redundant chugfest riffs that are meant to feed into bland catchy choruses. On top of that albums like The Downward Spiral, Holy Wood, and the highly underrated East Side Militia were also playing to making Industrial music more accessible during the 90s but still kept themselves more varied than just monotone groove riffs with catchy choruses and background synths.

Album Rating: 2.0

"FF have more in common with Helmet and Pantera lol"



Sadly, FF took the worst aspects of both those bands.