this review sucks my bum cheeks
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Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off
Eh but Steerpike, other people can like extreme metal and listen to what you do and respect and like this album. Not to be a cunt, but...
Do you really think I give a shit? You people are trying to argue taste with me. No one with an IQ over 50 tries to argue taste.
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Album Rating: 4.5
Steerpike, fact of the matter is that you're trying to impose a history on this band and this album that simply doesn't exist. You're trying to make it sound like the members of Metallica knew their was some kinda 'mold' for the next big thing, and that someone musta handed them these blueprints and they went directly into the studio and tried to replicate it. lol. You realize this is proposterous, right? Fact of the matter is that very few people believed in them in the early days. The band simply had tremendous confidence that their brand of Heavy Metal was good enough to conquer the planet. Which they did most succesfully from '83-'91.
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Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off
You're trying to make it sound like the members of Metallica knew their was some kinda 'mold' for the next big thing,
No, they wanted commercial success and they took a gamble on something they thought would help them get it. I never denied that they had to work for it. That was your own dumbass projecting onto me. Again.
Now I remember why I don't hang out here as often as I used to. Anytime I disagree with a prevailing opinion, I have to laboriously explain everything to you rabble. It seems taste is never enough anymore, I must be proselytized into the floor.
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Album Rating: 4.0
Steerpike, I actually think not everything is summed up by taste. I respect your right to dislike Metallica. But if everything was to be summed up by taste, there would be no need for forums like this one.
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Steerpike and moltenlave ...your argument is kinda lame
Spice it up for your avid audience ;)
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Album Rating: 4.5
'Cause you're giving a bogus rationalization of why Metallica sucks. It doesn't make any sense and I'm calling you out on it. The band can't help that they wrote amazingly tight and melodically appealing pieces that drew in increasingly larger numbers as the years rolled. There was no intent for commercial success, as evidenced by the music they choose to play. Glam is what was popular, and they could have clung to that if they wanted to get on the radio. The band even refused making 'music videos' for their first three albums, and two EPs. And, when they finally did one on 'Justice', they retained full creative control.....What do you have to say about Maiden's ever widening fanbase over the 80's? And, how that band began writing more and more accessible music, beginning with Powerslave? 'MOP' and Powerslave have a lot of similarities. It's easy to look at these two as the max power for each band.
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Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off
Steerpike, I actually think not everything is summed up by taste. I respect your right to dislike Metallica. But if everything was to be summed up by taste, there would be no need for forums like this one.
Durr. But this endless proselytizing wears at my patience. When I first came to the R&M forums, I could disagree with any opinion I wanted so long as I was prepared to back up my statements.
Now, if I say I don't like Metallica there's a mob ready to brand a big red A into my forehead. And it really doesn't matter how I explain myself. All these people ever do is put words in my mouth and restate the same arguments with only sleight variations in sentence structure. Having an opinion shouldn't be a chore.
'Cause you're giving a bogus rationalization of why Metallica sucks.
I said they suck because they're a parody of themselves and never musically impressed me. That's the last time I'm going to repeat that. If you still refuse to listen, that's your own problem.
Glam is what was popular, and they could have clung to that if they wanted to get on the radio.
But that would not have given them longevity. I already said that. Pay attention.
What do you have to say about Maiden's ever widening fanbase over the 80's?
Three words. Tape trading works. Metal has always flourished on a grassroots level. Metallica are not some glorious, messianic exception.
And, how that band began writing more and more accessible music, beginning with Powerslave?
Seventh Son was more accessible?This Message Edited On 07.05.08
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Seriously this argument sucks
Show some passion, some anger anything 
haha, I love how people get so offended when someone says a band they like is shit.
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Album Rating: 4.5
How about we come after you?
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Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off
Show some passion, some anger anything
I invite Metallica fans to kiss my ass.
Angry enough?
haha, I love how people get so offended when someone says a band they like is ****.
Someone actually compared me to Stalin when I said Tarja Turunen's solo album eats. I'm still trying to figure that one out, but it's given me reason to believe that fans of female metal singers are even more hostile than Metallica fans.This Message Edited On 07.05.08
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Album Rating: 4.5
I said they suck because they're a parody of themselves
I'll put it to bed if you can explain this statement in a way that makes sense to everyone here. How 'bout that challenge?
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how about you come on me? ;)
I AM SO WITTY OMGGZZZ
andd haha steerpike, i'll kiss it as long as it's a fine piece of ass.
I think that female metal singer fans are far more hostile than Metallica fans. Seriously, you say one thing bad about a female singer to their face and they will rip your fucking balls off 
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Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off
I'll put it to bed if you can explain this statement in a way that makes sense to everyone here. How 'bout that challenge?
Considering I've had to pull teeth to explain everything else, why not?
Keith Olberman once said, "If you do not evolve, you risk becoming a parody of yourself."
Metallica have not evolved. They've stagnated. And what few attempts they made at experimentation earlier in their careers were uninspired at best, laughable at worst. They're essentially a one-trick pony, but they don't even do the trick that well anymore.
Their music has become so cliche and ubiquitous you may as well here it in department stores alongside Su-Su-Sudio.
Much like Van Halen and Kiss, Metallica never really attempted to redefine themselves past the breakthrough. For the sake of comparison, think of the band Rush. Every few albums, they changed gears and tried something new while still retaining essential elements of their sound. Though the critical reviews were mixed, this constant reinvention allowed them greater longevity. Metallica only changed gears to go with the trends, as evidenced by (Re)Load and Saint Anger.
Being an archetype is fine, but Metallica tripped somewhere along the way and fell into the trap of being a stereotype. And personally I think that has just as much to do with the media's fellatio and the idiot fans as the band's own foibles along the way.
Regardless, they've become a cliche. It's hard to make fun of a cliche because it's own continued existence is a joke.
Seriously, you say one thing bad about a female singer to their face and they will rip your ****ing balls off
That is, if any of them were even remotely threatening. One of them wants to fight me, I think all I'd need to win is my shoe, their face, and after that maybe a mop. And before anyone accuses me of acting tough, I'm really not. Woody Allen could take these people.This Message Edited On 07.05.08
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And yet you like Manowar? :D;)
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Album Rating: 4.5
I love this album, but admittedly it can get bland with repeated listenings.This Message Edited On 07.05.08
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Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off
And yet you like Manowar?
Don't go there man. I'm in too good a mood to go true metal warrior on someone's ass today. However, if anybody wants to go burn some churches, I'm free this evening.
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Quote:
"Don't go there man. I'm in too good a mood to go true metal warrior on someone's ass today."
Fair do's
and im free to burn some churches, theres one just down the road from me
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Album Rating: 4.5
So, you point to two occurences where Metallica HAS evolved, although the growth was contrived to fit in with the times, as in the Load/Reload and St. Anger eras....But, you say that you love Maiden and there's basically a band that has evolved very little to NONE since their inception. Sure, there have been minor alterations over the years, but their core sound, the classical guitar runs, galloping bass patterns and other elements, have remained consistent throughout their career. So, where's your consistency?
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Album Rating: 4.5
I love Metallica, but leave Iron Maiden out of this, for they are a far better band.
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