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Good enough. The referencing of California was starting to wear mighty thin.

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you forgot the guitar

you just wanted the cover artwork? or the $50 "special" box set?

that $12 could have bought a copy of "back to bedlam"

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hahahaha

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I still haven't heard this James Blunt creature.

james blunt is so talented that he played all the lead guitar parts on "frances the mute", he has also stated that he would most like to be raymond from "everybody loves raymond"

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My hero. But to shift on-topic, I might contract my previous statement proclaiming that Mars is better than Jupiter. Maybe. A fight to the death is commencing.

Mars seems to be all about weddings, readymade fast food(not really), pets passing away....but jupiter flows a lot nicer.

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Eh. "Stadium Arcadium" (the song) completely maims the flow of Jupiter, where as Mars's biggest problem is "Desecration Smile"

ye it should be a near end album climax of sorts, "desecration" gets some nice frusciante harmony treatment tho

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My only problem with "Desecration" is the chorus. It's just bad. The rest is pretty nifty, though. And to Iluvatar, I personally feel the best song individually is probably "Tell Me Baby".

'Dani California' is a blatant copy of 'Mary Jane's Last Dance' by Tom Petty.

The verse melody and the lyrics. Listen to the guitaring style on both and then the similarity in lyrics in the first verse.

I think Petty might possibly be suing RHCP.
I had a link of the two tracks back to back but i can't find it.

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Yeah, that's well known. What you're forgetting is that accidents happen, and the lyrics are a story about a character in a few other Chili Peppers hits, not Tom Petty's thing. By the way, a few Beatles are guilty of the same crime, lest we forget George Harrison and "My Sweet Lord"?



The bottom line is this, rock musicians have "borrowed" from each other since the genre was invented. Even Elvis's songs were re-worked blues numbers. You can't blame the Chili Peppers without blaming Zeppelin, the Beatles, and countless others as well.This Message Edited On 06.09.06

Yeh but if you ask me, this is far more blatant than anything the others have done.

My Sweet Lord was fairly noticeable but i think this is worse.
Elvis, Zeppelin and the Beatles are all basically rock and roll/blues progression based artists. They have "borrowed" from other bands within a constant and similar genre with no real variation in style and sound.

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I'm not sure if this is worth mentioning, but have you noticed the "Day Tripper" riff is uncannily similiar to a certain riff from "What'd I Say?'?

It probably is worth mentioning it because i happen to be a massive beatles fan. To be honest though, i don't think the riffs are actually that similar..
I think whether the lyrics are from a true story or not is completely irrelevant.. I think the fact that when you play the guitar intros of 'Mary Jane's Last Dance' and 'Dani California' together, it literally bonds as if it's the same song with more instruments.
Just the thing that makes this more blatant plagerism than any other is the fact that Dani California has a number of elements in which their song is similar to Mary Jane's Last Dance.
- The melody - intro/verse
- The lyrical themes - Talking about the town/province where they grew up and their parents.This Message Edited On 06.09.06

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- The lyrical themes - Talking about the town/province where they grew up and their parents.

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But that doesn't mean it was deliberatly stolen.

You're right to say it might not be deliberately stolen, though does that mean if an artist does not confess about stealing a melody, they're not guilty and haven't plagiarised?
We will never really know whether RHCP did this patently... the thing is, if Petty sues, they'll base the trial on the similarity between the songs rather than whether RHCP intended on stealing or not... because that information will probably never be told. - it's unlikely that a band admits to being unoriginal

EDIT: About the lyrics... I wouldn't see the big fuss if the lyrics were the only similarity, because that is very common.. but the fact that the melody AND the lyrics are similar makes it slightly more dodgy for me. This Message Edited On 06.09.06

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Too true. I'm not saying they didn't steal it, either. I'm just saying that it's possible it was an accident, and even if they did swipe the bastard, they aren't the first to do it, and they won't be the last.