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robertsona
Emeritus
October 14th 2023


28660 Comments


why did my comment that was just a single word from the johnny post before mine get deleted

not cool

pizzamachine
October 14th 2023


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It’s retribution for your sins of um not looking both ways when crossing the street

JohnnyoftheWell
October 14th 2023


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yeah wtf it was the best word too

Pikazilla
October 14th 2023


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

scumfuck

Sowing
Moderator
October 14th 2023


45535 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Never underestimate how little I care when I decide to toss a grenade at a thread (which is to say if a thread gets annoying enough, I just wipe anything in sight until it feels vaguely music-related again [see how well that worked out]...it's not a slight against many of the users who likely did nothing wrong).

robertsona
Emeritus
October 14th 2023


28660 Comments


Sowing can I delete that comment like not even anything against you I just can't believe it's something I can do and it would feel so good

pizzamachine
October 14th 2023


28286 Comments


No offence Sowing but we all know your tactics lols

Sowing
Moderator
October 14th 2023


45535 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yes, and I know everyone else's ;-)

pizzamachine
October 14th 2023


28286 Comments


Nothing gets by you

theBoneyKing
October 14th 2023


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Boney - I actually find this album less samey than ‘C&L’ so that structural similarity hasn’t had a big impact on my enjoyment, but I do agree it’s there


Hm, C&L is certainly a bit more samey sound/pacing-wise but I’m not sure the songwriting template is as consistent there - or at least it’s less obviously so. But we’re splitting hairs here, this is an immense work for sure.

DoofDoof
October 14th 2023


17300 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

‘The Only Time’ to ‘John My Beloved’ I found a little uniform style wise when I revisited.



I always liked ‘No Shade’ a lot before but coming back to the album I thought it was a lot more important for pacing.

Sowing
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October 14th 2023


45535 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Death With Dignity, Fourth of July, The Only Thing, No Shade In The Shadow of the Cross, and Blue Bucket of Gold are my 5/5 tracks from C&L. The rest range from 4.5's to excellent atmosphere-builders.



This LP is just as consistent atmospherically, but slightly more uneven in terms of quality. Shit Talk, Genuflecting Ghost, and My Red Little Fox are absolutely 5/5 songs, Will Anybody Ever Love me is a 4.5, but then the rest is pretty much a consistent slate of 3's or 3.5's. Definitely splitting hairs though, because C&L is almost the same it's just that it has more 5's and the filler-ish stuff bottoms out around a 4 with the title track being the only one that sinks a tad lower.

DoofDoof
October 14th 2023


17300 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

'Should Have Known Better' actually pips '4th of July' for me as favourite on there now. 'Shade' would make a top 3.



The whole album is great though, opener and closer are perfect in their roles.

DoofDoof
October 14th 2023


17300 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

'but then the rest is pretty much a consistent slate of 3's or 3.5's'



very tough on 'So You are Tired' to relegate that to a 3.5

Sowing
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October 14th 2023


45535 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

That never clicked with me tbh. Even Will Anybody Ever Love Me took time to click. I originally dibbed this album to review, but I was so underwhelmed by those songs that I dropped my dibs. Obviously this entire thing has grown on me a ton, but I still think So You Are Tired is a 3.5 and Will Anybody Ever Love Me is just the 4th best thing here.

Sowing
Moderator
October 14th 2023


45535 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Not to sound overly negative or anything; any album that bottoms out with the occasional 3 or 3.5 makes for an immensely rewarding listen. The 4.5 reflects how I feel about the album overall and the feelings I get from listening to it.

theBoneyKing
October 14th 2023


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It’s funny - Doof tends to be a slightly more generous track rater but a stricter album rater while Sowing is more the opposite

DoofDoof
October 14th 2023


17300 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

'Not to sound overly negative or anything; any album that bottoms out with the occasional 3 or 3.5 makes for an immensely rewarding listen.'



I'm similar, my ratings are generally an accumulation of the degrees of good across the best material on an album, I can ignore the occasional 'just good', average or even poor song. Plus as you say, there's the 'overall impression' too.

DoofDoof
October 14th 2023


17300 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

'Doof tends to be a slightly more generous track rater but a stricter album rater while Sowing is more the opposite'



numerically they don't really correspond directly to each other for me I guess



I did move a bit towards a RYM style rating scale in that a 3.5 is an excellent 'top 100 of the year candidate' score for me now which might be more a 4 going by the sput rating descriptions



to contradict that I'm going through a process of revisiting favourite bands this year and I've bumped probably a couple of hundred albums up - some as extreme as 3.5's all the way up to 5's.

AsleepInTheBack
Emeritus
October 14th 2023


10745 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

rating mentality is tricksie. i feel like if i was being 100% accurate in utilising all the ratings to their fullest extent (100% objectivity goalsss) then i'd need to be rating a whole lot more negatively than i currently do, but these days if an album is mostly great such that i can see myself happily returning to it (i.e. not insubstantial lasting interest) then i usually plonk it at around a 4 to 4.3. The 4.5+ plus region is the only one im still probably excessively picky with.



idk posi vibes are nice



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