Janelle Monae The Age of Pleasure
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JohnnyoftheWell
June 14th 2023


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it would be ironic if i were making overt emotional play here, i.e. sharing the same scope as halcyon, but since i'm not and the scenario lacks the contrary/unwittingly self-sabotaging valance that you rly need to ground irony (as if the last however many pages of this thread have been anything but knowing postulation, if you really want to be a square about it), this attempted dig essentially boils down to a "you would know", which better aligns with aptness

ArsMoriendi
June 14th 2023


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Album Rating: 2.5

How diffuse and postulating, Johnny

PotsyTater
June 14th 2023


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“ what Portishead's Dummy is”

No

ArsMoriendi
June 14th 2023


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Album Rating: 2.5

But on a more serious note: I emotionally resonate more with Deerhunter lyrics than most lyrics



Especially Sailing, Basement Scene, Agoraphobia, Nether of Us Uncertainly and Heatherwood

JohnnyoftheWell
June 14th 2023


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I'd rather listen to 3 hours of you two pretending to host an orgy than pretend to be above postulation

ArsMoriendi
June 14th 2023


42362 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

@Potsy:



mel·an·chol·y

noun

a feeling of pensive sadness, typically with no obvious cause.



How is this not most Portsihead songs?

ArsMoriendi
June 14th 2023


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Album Rating: 2.5

"I'd rather listen to 3 hours of you two pretending to host an orgy than pretend to be above postulation"



Same

robertsona
Emeritus
June 14th 2023


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Album Rating: 3.5

if a statement of criticism is rendered ironic in the moment of its saying it’s because of the qualities of the person in general not as they’re established in the conversation solely. If hamlet said “you should always decide things really quickly!” in Act V it would be ironic even if he was pretty swift doing stuff in that one scene

robertsona
Emeritus
June 14th 2023


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Album Rating: 3.5

This principle of course holds more true here than in a play



That said

JohnnyoftheWell
June 14th 2023


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for that to stand, there still needs to be a contrary snag-against-character in the original criticism, which here can only be pinpointed within diffuse hipster postulation (which as covered in the last few comments is pretty moot on yes-honey-that-is-the-game-here grounds) or to invoke any given emotional quality (which is beyond my powers to offer conjecture either way)

JohnnyoftheWell
June 14th 2023


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the more convincing irony in this thread is that you're conceivably within 5 meters of ars and are endeavouring to define irony within this conversation while you should be helping him read the dictionary correctly, as

a feeling of pensive sadness, typically with no obvious cause

there are few acts that pinpoint the impetus for their subject matter as keenly or with-obvious-cause-dly as portishead

And I ain't guilty of the crimes you accuse me of / But I'm guilty of fear
Oh, you abandoned me, how I suffer
It's just I'm scared / Got hurt a long time ago / I can't make myself heard
Please, could you stay awhile to share my grief

etc. wouldn't say their work is entirely devoid of melancholy, but defining them by it outright belies a misunderstanding of the difference between that and wholesale acute sorrow

robertsona
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June 14th 2023


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Album Rating: 3.5

It lands worse as a joke with apt. It’s probably most accurate as hypocritical, funniest as ironic, and most unshapely and illegal and of course oddly positive as apt

PotsyTater
June 14th 2023


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You guys have never made me want to kill myself more than right now

normaloctagon
June 14th 2023


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Omg Johnny you’re right i naively relied on my ratings to remember but instead should have used my MIND. 4give me

JohnnyoftheWell
June 14th 2023


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hypocritical is indeed most accurate (though risks a misgauged Earnest Reading) and irony generally funniest though also tenuous here but

apt is an underused and often incorrectly avoided adjective and deserves more of a neutral valence than is generally afforded it

i have cookie crumbs on my shirt ffs

PotsyTater
June 14th 2023


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Holy fuck

JohnnyoftheWell
June 14th 2023


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hey pots wanna jam an opeth album w/ me

robertsona
Emeritus
June 14th 2023


28661 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

hey pots

normaloctagon
June 14th 2023


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No one’s jamming opeth without me but by the time i post this we might be on another PAGE and i won’t have a choice

PotsyTater
June 14th 2023


10099 Comments


Anything is better than watching you and bob try to out dumb-fuck each other, which one we jammin?



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