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johnnyblaze
November 16th 2017


3433 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Idk but I remember reading an interview with Robin and he definitely made it seem like Tillman was a pretty toxic part of the group. Not surprising cuz the guy is competely fucking unsufferable imo.



And sorry boney this album is miles better than HB.



TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
November 16th 2017


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 4.3 | Sound Off

Sure, the band environment might've been affected by him and possibly even the songwriting on Pecknold's part. I'm not a big fan of Tillman, though I haven't tried too often getting into Father John Misty, but it's pretty clear that Fleet Foxes is where it's at.



I still can't decide if this or HB is better.

theBoneyKing
November 16th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Father John Misty > Fleet Foxes tbh. Every Fleet Foxes album is great but I Love You Honeybear is a classic.

brainmelter
November 17th 2017


8542 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

eh but the last father john misty was pre weeeeeeak imo

theBoneyKing
November 17th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It's about as good as this and if condensed to the same length as this would likely be better.

neekafat
Emeritus
November 17th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.1

I heard some of Father John Misty and I enjoyed it so I'll probably check it soon

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
November 17th 2017


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 4.3 | Sound Off

Same. I already know the project isn't superior to Fleet Foxes though; I remember it being like folk satire.

theBoneyKing
November 17th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

They're not even comparable but it is superior

Yeah he uses satire and humor but to convey serious themes and his music is gorgeous too. Honeybear on the whole is more relatable and emotionally resonant than anything FF has done. Helplessness Blues is pretty emotional but even that has a level of emotional obscurity that slightly blocks it from having a huge impact.

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
November 17th 2017


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 4.3 | Sound Off

I'm most of the way through I Love You, Honeybear. It's very good but not as great as any Fleet Foxes imo

DoofusWainwright
November 17th 2017


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Lyrics are juicier, they really come into their own after multiple spins

Cygnatti
November 17th 2017


36392 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

FJM uses irony and satire to cover up his poor songwriting, it's pretty obnoxious tbh.

theBoneyKing
November 17th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

He's an amazing songwriter though, ILYHB has some of the best lyrics of the decade

Robin Pecknold is a decent lyricist too but he sometimes gets too bogged down in anachronistic imagery

Not to shit on Fleet Foxes though because I love them too

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
November 17th 2017


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 4.3 | Sound Off

The lyrics are witty and entertaining but didn't strike me as brilliant or anything. There's a lot more depth and beauty to Fleet Foxes.



I'll listen to more Father John Misty in the future, because I did enjoy I Love You, Honeybear.

Cygnatti
November 17th 2017


36392 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

^exactly. i definitely like some songs on honeybear, etc. but it's hard to listen to anything by him without rolling my eyes back into oblivion.

theBoneyKing
November 17th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Hmmm agree to disagree I guess. Honeybear is prob top 5 of the decade

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
November 17th 2017


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 4.3 | Sound Off

I agree with it being top 1000 of the decade.



My top 5 of the decade: 1) The National - High Violet 2) Alcest - Ecailles 3) Steven Wilson - Hand. Cannot. Erase. 4) Nick Cave - Skeleton Tree 5) The National - Sleep Well Beast

DoofusWainwright
November 17th 2017


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Something like 'Kaputt', 'Trouble Will Find Me', 'Benji', 'Flotus', 'High Violet'...something from 2017 might gatecrash that lot

theBoneyKing
November 17th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

For me it's something like:

1) High Violet 2) Jason Isbell - Southeastern 3) Trouble Will Find Me 4) Phosphorescent - Muchacho 5) Honeybear OR Decemberists - The King is Dead

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
November 17th 2017


21027 Comments

Album Rating: 4.3 | Sound Off

Trouble Will Find Me isn't far behind my top 5. Can pretty confidently say The National are the best band of the decade so far.

Project
November 30th 2017


5959 Comments


finally revisiting this after a cursory listen upon release and I think the reason this never grabbed me is because it doesn't feel coherent at all. It's just like a string of pretty choruses randomly thrown together

idk maybe it'll click eventually?



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