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But yeah anyway this stuff really isn't for me, I only listened because someone rec'd it to me (maybe someone in this thread).

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Firebird is really good in case anyone hasn't heard it yet (excluding Jamie).

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Yeah, I don't really consider this prog rock in all honesty. More Art Rock

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"I think of prog rock as a movement more than a genre"



Well yeah, I wholeheartedly agree, but this album is among the greatest examples of how this movement

actually evolved in my opinion. "Prog" has become an even broader term than in the 70s, but it definitely

still has specific characteristics, many of which this possesses imo. But ultimately nothing of that really

matters anyway

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Well I guess it's all subjective but when I use the word "progressive" I use it to describe music that doesn't follow regular song structures and does different/creative/unique things, which are qualities found in this music and Gazpacho as a band



I agree with Onirium's points

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"music that doesn't follow regular song structures and does different/creative/unique things"



I agree, although personally I think prog also has to take at least a little inspiration from popular music

to be called so, because otherwise it could be basically any kind of experimental music.

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70's classic prog rock monsters are mostly influenced by classical, jazz and folk. It includes complex time signature, lush keyboards, non commercial approach and long format of songs. There are certain sub-genres that flirt with more popular music, but mainly within modern prog rock such as Gazpacho, The Pineapple Thief, Blackfield, The Mayan Factor, Astra etc. But all these aforementioned group are first and foremost influenced by the 70's classics itselves, if not influenced by metal, pop or psych.

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I agree that the prog scene is highly inspired by classical, jazz and folk, but at the basis of the whole

prog movement, in my opinion, the most important idea is that desire to experiment and extend the horizons

of popular music. Should it be 60s popular music for the classic prog bands or alternative/indie rock for

the most recent incarnation of the scene. Most prog is still popular music for me, but I guess it depends on

how you define it.

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Seems there are two basic camps in the prog rock genre: those who see it as any music that expands musical horizons and those who hold the traditionalist view of extended song lengths, unorthodox time signatures, etc.



Have to say I'm with Onirium. Anything that pushes the boundaries of modern music and is willing to experiment is, by nature of the word, "progressive."

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I always figured that was what prog rock was about(after all, the word "progress" is part of its name). I never got however how

one can identify a song as "prog" from listening to it, what exactly does it mean to sound "proggy" as opposed to

"experimental"?

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Seems there are two basic camps in the prog rock genre: those who see it as any music that expands musical horizons and those who hold the traditionalist view of extended song lengths, unorthodox time signatures, etc.

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I don't think there are as many horizons to expand nowadays. With that being said, i think Gazpacho did a fantastic job on this but whether you even consider it to be "prog" is a different story

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Very little things connect Gazpacho to prog rock. If we classify them as such, it's more because of the lenght of the songs and the use of lush keyboards which includes mellotron, otherwise they would be labelled as a simple alternative rock band.



At large, a prog band has to be merged with (or highly influenced by) at least another genre, let say classical, folk, psyche or jazz. Jazz-Fusion for instance could be named Progressive Jazz if they flirt with either funky, flamenco, reggae or psyche and if they constantly play with the structures.



The structure arrangements of prog are very often changing and we often find odd time signatures. The instruments used are unusual and surpasses the single bass-drums-guitar-piano of a traditional rock band. Prog will use them all the same of course, but also here or there clarinet, trompet, sax, violin, cellos, flute and lush keyboards will be added.

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I get what you mean, basically we just don't agree on how to classify the band. But honestly, everything you just said applies to Gazpacho in my opinion.

I agree prog is partly defined by the shifts in arrangements and the ever-changing structures, but non-

linear structures and changes in pace and moods definitely are a prominent feature here for me.



Also, there are unusual time signatures on the album; for example the whole beginning of Death Room is in

7/8, and there's a couple more "odd" bars through the album if I remember well.



In my opinion, when it comnes to the modern scene, it doesn't get much proggier than Gazpacho. But again,

maybe that's just me

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When it comes to Gazpacho (before Demon), if there is a comparison to be done, it would be first and foremost the similitude with Marillion without Fish (Hogarth era which partially excludes the real prog rock version of the band) which means prog-pop or a melodic, light prog if you will. Gazpacho would also evoke to some extent Radiohead for the mellow character of the songs and their electronic approach.



Gazpacho kinda took the best of the two worlds in applying a minimum of electronics and in being almost ambient (except maybe for Demon). But thanks to both the keyboard and violin works and the sometimes shifts in arrangement, Gazpacho are still progging. Probably harder than I thought at first. Let me revisit this actual album, that will probably convince me still more.



edit; Great Sound Off btw.

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Thanks! And yeah, this is definitely their most progressive album in nature. As much as I love Night and Tick Tock, I think this is the first time they fully realized themselves musically and developped more of a proper identity

Youre welcome

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Yeah this is very pretty stuff, but I'm not hearing that much about this album that I'd call progressive. Art rock is probably a better catch all for music like this.

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I would classify this as art/progressive rock but genres aside this is AOTY for me and am so glad I got it on CD for Christmas, the packaging and album art is designed like a book.

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This clashes the new Rishloo for being aoty. Maybe LAGWBAT will win because it was highly anticipated. But we'll see... Also, good job guys, this converstation above is one of the best ,considering music, especially a genre that is more difficult to define than it seems, that I've read in this site. Cheers!