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JamieTwort
June 26th 2013


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Also @Willie; I'm well aware there other users in this discussion, I was just referring to what led to the discussion in the first place.

KILL
June 26th 2013


81582 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

dude shh or we'll be seein jt2 soon enough

JamieTwort
June 26th 2013


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lol

Fistertain
June 26th 2013


19 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I always felt that Queensryche and Iron Maiden were always good counterpoint to each other, when it came to their progressiveness. Where Iron Maiden were more deliberate in their prog approach (mirroring the complex song structures of Yes, Kansas, Genesis and the like), Queensryche seemed to draw influence from the more subtly progressive art rock bands ( Pink Floyd, later Beatles, Peter Gabriel solo stuff).



The comparison to TFF was merely that of perceived quality. To me it seems that Iton Maiden continue to explore the Progressive side of their sound, while Queensryche seems to have shed the art rock overtones and daringness they were building on from Warning - Promised Land. That brings me to one of my central problems with this album. It's safe, not just as a Queensryche album, but as a Metal Album. Queensryche, to me, we're special because of how daring they were from album to album, with how comfortable they were with expanding into different styles of rock. They were special because of how strangely "un-metal they were for a "metal" band. That seems to have disappeared...

BladeRunner
June 26th 2013


643 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

That's a good point.



Can we fault a band for not constantly breaking new ground, though? With many bands, it would be

easy to pinpoint exactly when they were doing something unique and special, but few do it their

entire career without first becoming either derivative of themselves on subsequent records, or just

simply running out of that lightning in a bottle.



Personally I think it's just fine to create a record or film or what have you that doesn't

necessarily pioneer something new, but instead walks a well-tread path in interesting way, the

results of which end up being enjoyable entertainment.



I want to avoid experiences like the one the other day when I tried to listen to Tate's new music.

One could make an argument that he is being a bit more forward thinking with his music when compared

to this, but man, it SUCKS. I just don't want to listen to it.



This new QR line-up might not be the magicians of old, but if these tracks are just parlor tricks,

they are pretty dazzling.

Fistertain
June 26th 2013


19 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Simple songs and catchy tunes are great, no complaints with that. I think this is a solid metal album. I'm just playing devil's advocate to the army of "Queensryche is back! Album of the year!" crowd. Let's not diminish just how good Queensryche were by suggesting that this album is in line with the classics.

Fistertain
June 26th 2013


19 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

DtC and FU are ground-breakingly terrible.

JamieTwort
June 26th 2013


26988 Comments


I agree with Fistertain. I mean this is ok but compared to their earlier stuff (everything up to and including Promised Land) this seems really bland.

I need to give this another listen or two before making a proper verdict but at the moment I can't see this being more than a 2.5-3 for me.

mandan
June 26th 2013


14002 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

They're definitely not the same without DeGarmo.

KILL
June 26th 2013


81582 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

wot we do m/

sonictheplumber
June 26th 2013


17600 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

dude all this philosophical discussion about the new queensryche record hahaha

Titan
June 26th 2013


26546 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

this will all be gone in a month

mandan
June 26th 2013


14002 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

On another note, I'm jamming The Warning, and it's dangerously close to RFO. Such a sublime record...

Titan
June 26th 2013


26546 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I like it a smidge better than Rage Danny

Fistertain
June 26th 2013


19 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Rage is my personal favorite. Warning is really damn good for a debut LP, though. The Maideny section at the end of Roads to Madness is on fire!

Titan
June 26th 2013


26546 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Take Hold, Before The Storm, and of course Roads are stellar tracks.

StallionMang
June 26th 2013


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Damn, what an inconsistent band. Glad they finally put out something at least halfway-decent.

BladeRunner
June 26th 2013


643 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Oh shit...Take Hold...the first time I saw this live was just mind-blowing.

Titan
June 26th 2013


26546 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

agreed Blade.....one of their best for sure.

Willie
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June 26th 2013


20673 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I'm well aware there other users in this discussion, I was just referring to what led to the discussion in the first place.
Okay. What I was mainly taking issue with (and replying to) is this: Queensryche have pretty much always been a proggy Iron Maiden.



That brings me to one of my central problems with this album. It's safe, not just as a Queensryche album, but as a Metal Album. Queensryche, to me, we're special because of how daring they were from album to album, with how comfortable they were with expanding into different styles of rock. They were special because of how strangely "un-metal they were for a "metal" band. That seems to have disappeared...
I agree with you, but have a theory/excuse. They didn't really have a lot of time to write new songs with their new vocalist which wouldn't explain the short length and streamlined style of the songs. Also, as a comeback album they might not have wanted to step too far away from the core Queensryche sound. Their next album will prove whether I'm right or full of shit.



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