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The Final Cut was the typical (at the time) Waters' blubbering about the darkness of society, war and related themes. It was becoming, if anything, a emotional burden the band needn't have been dealt. Waters' narcissism and negativity weren't the sole reasons for the bands demise, but I do blame them for being the catalysts for it. Im' hardly surprised many either found Waters' personal demons hard to take seriously, or wanted to tackle them with any degree of hoping to come out it unscathed. I don't feel anywhere near the same degree of sincerity to Waters' lyrics than I do to those he penned some 10 years earlier when his fellow bandmates actually contributed more than sorrowful exchanges. His lyrics for Echoes, for example, exemplify his skills as a writer, but I find it difficult to locate similar gems on The Final Cut. It's as if he surrendered the metaphor for the political jab, opting for the overt instead of the subtle, not just on a single song, or a few songs, but for an entire album. "Sorry Roger but I can't be bothered tearing down another one of your walls right now" is all I can think when I come across it.



Understandably, he was as emotionally as crippled; to say otherwise would be foolish. But, like others such as Mason, have stated, The Final Cut is flawed in retrospect and I think he'd freely acknowledge its lack of efficacy as a Pink Floyd album from today's point of view. This is one of the reasons why Animals really for me was their last effective release. Everything following feels like a descent via attrition towards the things they so casually wrote about during the 70s as if they subconsciously knew it was coming to an end.



The Division Bell conversely sorely misses Waters' input, because Sampsons lyrics are sappy and contrived, and musically it's clearly driven from the eye of Gilmour's musical pedigrees which seem to be better suited 80s pomposity. I like think of it all as being that Waters' was best for his broad brush strokes, whilst Gilmour, Wright and Mason pitched in for the finer detail and nuance. When one person takes compplete creative control, you end up with radically different styles that just don't equate to the experience of Pink Floyd.



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@guitarded: Yeah that's fair enough, I would have loved it if they'd created another album like Animals instead of The Wall but sadly that didn't happen. All I know is that for me The Final Cut was a step up from The Wall regardless of the lack of contributions from other members.

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Good post Taylor, agreed through and through.



Perhaps it's a matter of taste whether you prefer the ultra-personal Waters lyrics of TFC and The Wall, or the more metaphorical, wider-reaching lyrics of Meddle, DSOTM, WYWH.



I'll concede that a Waters personal album is still a really great fucking album, and that I am a tad bitter as to how the band fell apart.

The Division Bell conversely sorely misses Waters' input, because Sampsons lyrics are sappy and contrived, and musically it's clearly driven from the eye of Gilmour's musical pedigrees which seem to be better suited 80s pomposity. I like think of it all as being that Waters' was best for his broad brush strokes, whilst Gilmour, Wright and Mason pitched in for the finer detail and nuance. When one person takes compplete creative control, you end up with radically different styles that just don't equate to the experience of Pink Floyd.

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but guiiiiiiyyyys...Syd Barrett

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to conclude i think we can all agree on: RIP Syd

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Hard.

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who's he?

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"When one person takes compplete creative control, you end up with radically different styles that just don't equate to the experience of Pink Floyd."





that's why everything after animals is meh

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fans will always be split between TFC and TDB as best album after The Wall, depends on what part of older Floyd suits you fancy more and your preference over Water's exceptional lyrics and songwriting vs Gimlour's epic space rock vibes and emotional guitar expertise

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"Admittedly the emotion isn't there in the songs where Spencer takes over and same with Kirwan to a lesser extent, but when Green was at the front of things, damn, music really doesn't get any more personal and emotive than songs like Man of the World, Closing My Eyes etc."



And there's my problem. It's not with Peter Green, but more with Spencer and Kirwan. Green was probably my favorite musician in Fleetwood Mac's history, but the line-up fronted by Nicks/Buckingham was my favorite line-up overall for the group. I just love the chemistry between the members

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With that said, I think I like both eras equally but in their separate ways

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holy shit taylormemer appears whattheactual

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People don't talk much about the fact that PF released 8 albums in a 6

year interval, and then slowed down in output over time. They only

released 2 albums in the 80's (TFC and AMLoR) and their last hurrah in

the 90's. I'd say the changes in their output rate are an interesting

subject matter.

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i guess



bands slow down after they have done all they can with their sound and their inspiration. the drive only lasts so long no matter how good you are. also a band as huge as floyd were probably very wary of releasing something after the fallout with waters since they were worried about the fans

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Makes sense. Their sound peaked with the Trinity, but after that, well, they had to focus on holding their ground.



Interesting to see what others would say.

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It's not so much as interesting as the reality of the situation at hand. Wright left just before The Wall was released (because Waters practically forced him to), whilst Mason and Gilmour were busy with side projects. Wright too had a solo endeavour going. It was evident the group were in a complete state of apathy, well, at least 75% of them were because of the financial woes they were facing, forcing to leave their homes, and because of Waters' dominance towards the narcissistic and ultra-serious commentary of his life and subjects to which he resented most--it was becoming just far too clinical. I'd argue that they really broke up before The Wall was even constructed, despite their being physically present. So, really, it is of little surprise that the 80s only saw two albums following this period of collapse, with each one being led creatively by a different leader, subtended by a lengthy lawsuit. After all of this, I couldn't imagine making another album, but somehow, Gilmour managed to conjure some strength to make one final attempt at closure.

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It seemed silly to not give this a 5.

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Tbh it seems silly how that's even a thought lol

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I try not to 5 things too quickly, but this is too perfect.