Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here
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guitarded_chuck
May 21st 2014


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

as massive a floyd fan i've been for a long time, i've never liked tfc



something about it being mostly roger, his singing, his cliche songs about war and his father, just not my thing



not to mention rick isn't even on it, and it shows



i much prefer the entire band working in unison and the discussion of much more interesting themes

Rowan5215
Emeritus
May 21st 2014


48526 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Obviously the whole band working in tandem is them at their best and TFC does suffer from a lack of Rick

But there's nothing cliche about the songs imo and his singing is absolutely heart-wrenching

ButteryBiscuitBass
May 21st 2014


11469 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Beddy for you.

tommygun
May 21st 2014


27148 Comments


haha

demigod!
May 21st 2014


49668 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

tfc is pretty much the wall minus gilmour's awesome guitar contributions and the engaging concept



and the wall's not even that great to begin with so.. do the math



it's just not very interesting



if it was released as a Roger solo record it would be one of his weaker ones imo

guitarded_chuck
May 21st 2014


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

yeah p much agreed

unaMUSEd
May 21st 2014


1441 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

TFC is definitely bottom 3 floyd for me

DikkoZinner
May 21st 2014


5370 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Heaven from Helllll

JamieTwort
May 21st 2014


26988 Comments


tfc is pretty much the wall minus gilmour's awesome guitar contributions and the engaging concept

and the wall's not even that great to begin with so.. do the math

it's just not very interesting

if it was released as a Roger solo record it would be one of his weaker ones imo


I've never disagreed with something so much, although I guess I do agree with the part about The Wall not being that great. The Final Cut is like The Wall but without all the filler and the silly concept. The Wall may have more contributions from Gilmour but that's really the only thing it has over TFC for me. Plus TFC has my favourite Gilmour solo so it's hardly completely lacking in that department anyway.

BigPleb
May 21st 2014


65808 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Twort is pisd.

JamieTwort
May 21st 2014


26988 Comments


I think the thing with the feelings in TFC for me is that while in The Wall you could easily tell that Waters was feeling what he was singing, in TFC it seems for me that he just picked themes that people could relate to and sung them, I don't think that he "feels the feelings that he sings" in TFC, I know is subjective as fuck to tell if a muscician is really feeling his music, and I know my theory sounds weird as fuck sorry haha, just couldn't find another way to explain it


This is completely backwards imo. I mean it's pretty much universally agreed that TFC is stripped back purely to Waters feelings, while on The Wall his feelings/emotions were somewhat hidden behind a fictional concept.

JamieTwort
May 21st 2014


26988 Comments


@Jamie: That's why I prefer Rumours over Peter Green's work with Fleetwood Mac. I love the super personal and emotive nature of it


Haha that's actually one of the reasons I prefer Peter Green-era stuff. No musician has ever managed to convey emotion with as much sincerity and intensity as Green imo.

Admittedly the emotion isn't there in the songs where Spencer takes over and same with Kirwan to a lesser extent, but when Green was at the front of things, damn, music really doesn't get any more personal and emotive than songs like Man of the World, Closing My Eyes etc.

ButteryBiscuitBass
May 21st 2014


11469 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I think TFC needs to be understood for what it was. It was never going to be as musically vibrant as Animals, or this. Yet, the passion and emotion Waters uses on that record reaches better heights than he ever did vocally and lyrically.

BigPleb
May 21st 2014


65808 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

TFC is better than The Wall.

JamieTwort
May 21st 2014


26988 Comments


Right I think that covers everything that I wanted to respond to lol.

BigPleb
May 21st 2014


65808 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Ye, you can finally calm down!!!!

tempest--
May 21st 2014


20634 Comments


'ave a pint lad!

adr
May 21st 2014


12097 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

TDB > TFC



hard

JamieTwort
May 21st 2014


26988 Comments


The Division Bell only has one song that comes close to the quality of The Final Cut imo.

mandan
May 21st 2014


14078 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I'll sit on the fence here...



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