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shheeee i'm jealous it's cold as fuck in mid-missouri. Ordered delivery even though i'm broke just cause I don't wanna go outside.

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BODYBAGGED = he's x__X send lambsbread to the morgue and someone hold skeames back cause he's straight

murdering these jive ass turkeys



dude yes, feature = powerful/respectable post ...fuk man damn i wanna get smart with you but lol nah

fuck all that shit it's time for beddy bye no introspection filled posts even if it's past midnight

for ethos tonight plus i don't like politics too much anyways



but wow ok yeah all i really gotta say is arthur russell pretty much

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just happy you read it :D



get back to me when you finish the brother's karamazov we'll talk smart it'll be dope

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yo let me join this convo



" wholesale cost of most medication is very affordable, but insurance companies and R&D firms can charge exorbitant amounts for it because it's an absolute necessity"



iirc america pretty much subsidizes R&D for the rest of the world, is this not true? most medical advances come from america. i don't think our r&d (i.e. big pharma) could survive without exorbitant prices b/c it's fucking expensive to come up with a new drug, so you gotta pay back for it somehow.

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so actually some fact checking says china is catching up to america, tbh idk if that's a good thing or not. it'd be great for china to subsidize r&d for us too but we already have workers' blood on our consumer products hand, it'd be a tad ironic to get the new life-saving HIV treatment at the cost of misery, starvation, and probably death of many chinese workers

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I'm gonna keep this short because I've been way too wordy tonight, but anyway.



The flaw in that argument is that for-profit American R&D companies don't actually put all that much funding into researching cures for serious diseases, because that's not where the money is. Follow the money trail and you'll see that like any business, big pharma pockets a significant portion of what they make. That's fine if you believe that health care should be treated like a business, but I don't, for the reasons I've previously stated.

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"shheeee i'm jealous it's cold as fuck in mid-missouri."

don't be, heat fucking sucks

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that doesn't really challenge the argument, though. i mean i don't know what exactly big pharma is researching then (cures for the common cold?) but in any case if it's medicine then by default it's a good thing yeah? i mean i'd love to cure cancer but if i cured the common cold i'd be really fucking happy too. (and yes i'm aware that that's probably impossible but bear with me) and i mean profit margins for pharmaceutical companies isn't that much (like 5%, tho i believe one company made it to 18% or so) but it's not like they're shitting on us the way apple or some high-end clothes manufacturer does



also i'm not interested in philosophical/ideological arguments of whether or not health care should be treated like a business, show me the most effective (in terms of productivity and cost) to get something done and i don't care if obama, your momma, or some greedy evil big pharma CEO is making the money. as of right now the US system seems to be getting the job done for the whole world but that's probably also b/c so much fucking money goes into the system. *shrugs*

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It's an issue of resource allocation. The most serious conditions (or the most prevalent ones, in some cases) should take priority, but pharmaceutical will frequently eschew research on those in favor of meds they can create dependencies in people with and sell for exorbitant prices. A lot of these meds are arguably part of the problem, i.e. depression medication, which I'll admit to having some personal bias against after seeing family members struggle with them. Companies are free to advertise medication that has questionable efficacy and potentially serious side-effects, and unfortunately doctors are pressured into giving into their patients demands if they don't want to end up being sued for malpractice or shunned by the people who give them their paychecks.



To your last point, keep in mind that I am promoting an ideal system, not the poorly run, compromised systems we see in the world today. Since a government run healthcare system could be nonprofit, it'd be ideal for keeping costs down for the people. And again, I'll qualify my position by saying that the shift needs to be gradual, not immediate. It's something I feel is worth working towards, though.

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"A lot of these meds are arguably part of the problem, i.e. depression medication, which I'll admit to having some personal bias against after seeing family members struggle with them"



That's interesting, I wonder if that's actually true. I don't think depression meds are actually intentionally malicious, but you do bring up a good point. Our med system is fucked b/c people like psychiatrists get paid by prescription, because people can't stand the idea of someone getting paid not to diagnose someone. And so you just give people BS medication, so that the patient is happy (placebo effect/drugs), psychiatrist is happy (paycheck), pharma company is happy (paycheck). And the taxpayer cries because the money is in the drugs that are providing tangential value. That said, this is all theory and I'd like citations that the focus on psychiatric drugs (which can create dependencies) is taking funding away from more experimental trials for serious/prevalent conditions.



I would like the ideal system, but TBH the idea of a communist utopia (even as a staunch capitalist) also sounds really tempting, in theory anyways.

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paragraphs

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The information you're looking for is readily available, friend. I'd be happy to link you to some of it to get you started, if you're interested.



Your point about it not being malicious is one I can understand, but I have a lot of biases against our healthcare system and big pharma that stems from personal experience, and it's hard for me to totally put that aside.



As long as you're a positive force in your immediate environment, you're helping work toward that ideal system. :-] And you seem like a very reasonable person, so I'm sure you are.

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@Treb If that's directed at my long comment, I wrote it like an essay. I've been taught that essay paragraphs should express complete thoughts. I'm sure there are other schools of thought on the matter, though.

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Psychologist can only prescribe medicines in PA and it sucks for me trying to get on anti-depressants. I see a psychiatrist who understands medical conditions much more but still can't prescribe me anything only because under law psychologists understand the physiological aspect of it more. So basically I have to see a psychologist separately to get prescribed meds, it's stupid as fuck considering I'm an otherwise completely healthy person with little to no allergies with drugs or anything, that I've already bought off the streets

hi jac

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just be careful with anti-depressants, man. They don't always have the intended effect. :/

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hi tommy

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Anytime I self medicated with benzos off the streets it worked for me. I'll try to be safe but yeah... I'm like near suicidal

hi skeamesy

not much jac bro just exam study but when it's all over we should nude up on tinychat again

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Almost done listening to this, and I don't think I like it...don't enjoy the fuzzy guitars and his voice. Idk the whole thing as a whole is really underwhelming for me But the lyrics are obviously quite masterful. Will try to listen more before I jump to conclusions though.