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DDDeftoneDDD
March 23rd 2023


23526 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"Depeche and NIN are now examples of 'pretentious alt 90s music'... not sure about that one chief."



No they re not pretentious at all, that s not what I said. Ulver can be seen as such though, by doing artsy ambient synthpoppier vibe that, often/ occasionally, make me think of those extremely influential bands from the 90's.



Shame on Demon, twisting words like a reporter.

StormChaser
March 23rd 2023


3151 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I don't think it's very wrong to call new Ulver pretentious, and I don't think that should be viewed as a necessarily bad thing. If something's pretentious, doesn't mean it's by default lesser in value. I may not like pretentious things, but Akerfeldt is and always was hella pretentious, and so is Steven Wilson and I love their music (for the most part)

budgie
March 23rd 2023


42327 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"I haven't listened to any Ulver post-Nattens because the trilogy is perfect and there aren't many perfect things in this world"



wait are you serious??

JohnnyoftheWell
March 23rd 2023


64287 Comments


absolutely wack take ngl
things that are tryhard enough to have obligatory pretentious warnings:
- all 90s NIN (eww)
- Kveldssanger (eww)
- Perdition City and Blood Inside (best two Ulver albums)
- not depeche mode jfc what

StormChaser
March 23rd 2023


3151 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I don't think anybody ever implied DM was pretentious mane

JohnnyoftheWell
March 23rd 2023


64287 Comments


look upon the last page and vom the twist is twisted

budgie
March 23rd 2023


42327 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

are you guys using pretension to mean stuff that just sounds highbrow to you or what cuz i dont see how you could listen to an album in a vacuum and decide its pretentious without artistic context

StormChaser
March 23rd 2023


3151 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

are you guys using pretension to mean stuff that just sounds highbrow to you - I think they did, or maybe even I did too in the first sentence. In the second I used it in the context of actually listening to interviews with the mentioned gentlemen wherein this is indubitably displayed

JohnnyoftheWell
March 23rd 2023


64287 Comments


pretension = trying too hard and it clearly showing

StormChaser
March 23rd 2023


3151 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yes, what johnnyboy said

budgie
March 23rd 2023


42327 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

gotcha



ive only seen garm in a clip from that one BM documentary and he seemed pretty down to earth



& maybe read some notes from physical media

budgie
March 23rd 2023


42327 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"and it clearly showing"



sounds like a personal ascription

Pangea
March 23rd 2023


10946 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

calling something pretentious is pretentious

JohnnyoftheWell
March 23rd 2023


64287 Comments


Garm nowadays seems relatively chill, but some of his 00s interviews are hypercringe

"sounds like a personal ascription"

on the one hand yes, on the other hand if you don't feel able to append that ascription to the likes of Dead City Centres' v/o or Trent Reznor recording TDS in 10050 Cielo Drive, you don't deserve cognitive faculties

budgie
March 23rd 2023


42327 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i dont ever listen to NIN but maybe if i knew trent reznor persona and was familiar with the music sure



but man dead city centres is so campy its the complete opposite of tryhard pretension

Demon of the Fall
March 23rd 2023


39056 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

okay, imagine doing something as pretentious as Trent Renzor did, yet still making basic bitch music completely ill-fitting of that descriptor, lmao

but yes, usually when talking about music no-one bothers to understand the intention of the artist, therefore 'pretentiousness' is measured in silly ways

DDDeftoneDDD
March 24th 2023


23526 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

New Ulver is cool music. BM Ulver is History made.



PS: Assassination goes totally DM btw

Chippe
April 4th 2023


582 Comments


#2 shame of the day. Adore some post bm ulver, never cared for the bm trilogy. That will change.

Chippe
April 4th 2023


582 Comments


#2 shame of the day. Adore some post bm ulver, never cared for the bm trilogy. That will change.

DDDeftoneDDD
April 5th 2023


23526 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Oh yes

Do it or kill yourself



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