You're not my mum.

But yes ma'am.

Album Rating: 3.5

Well what do you expect.....WE can't make threads about AB without them being closed, and they won't make an official thread.

i like this band. mark tremonti is pretty good.

[QUOTE=madcreedfan]Wind Up records are just out there for the money, they have told the guys that they will only let them release the songs that they think will be good radio songs, this is exactly what they did with Creed and many people dubbed Creed's music as radio music. And the guys don't wont this to happen again. IMO they should get a new label for the next album.[/QUOTE]

Man, I know. They need to quit releasing the so-called "catchy" songs that are the most Creed-like and weakest on the album. "One Day Remains" is badass. Jeez, not every non-musician doesn't get hooked by a song with a good instrumental hook. They treat record buyers as though they're all thirteen-year-old girls. I thought one of the primary reasons Trem had for breaking up Creed was to get a band that would have the musical and artistic respect as a kick-*** outfit that Creed NEVER had. Wind-up is not the right label for them anymore. It says something that:
a.) The chord progression for the first single of ODR, "Open Your Eyes," has the EXACT SAME progression and style AND tuning the previous Creed single "My Sacrifice" does.
b.) The kind of material Wind-up exclusively releases: post-grunge/nu-metal and NOTHING else. There is NO artistic diversity on that label.
c.) The fact that Wind-up, according to Trem in a Guitar One interview, was all set to drop the rest of the group like a hot potato if there was the slightest chance that they wouldn't make money, and only when Trem played them the "radio-friendly" cuts did they aquiesce to producing the new group.

Bull****. Trem is right on the money with this music and the singles will ruin any chance for credibility among musicians. They need to clear out of Wind-up ASAP.

Album Rating: 3.5

[QUOTE=Ripper22]Man, I know. They need to quit releasing the so-called "catchy" songs that are the most Creed-like and weakest on the album. "One Day Remains" is badass. Jeez, not every non-musician doesn't get hooked by a song with a good instrumental hook. They treat record buyers as though they're all thirteen-year-old girls. I thought one of the primary reasons Trem had for breaking up Creed was to get a band that would have the musical and artistic respect as a kick-*** outfit that Creed NEVER had. Wind-up is not the right label for them anymore. It says something that:

a.) The chord progression for the first single of ODR, "Open Your Eyes," has the EXACT SAME progression and style AND tuning the previous Creed single "My Sacrifice" does.

b.) The kind of material Wind-up exclusively releases: post-grunge/nu-metal and NOTHING else. There is NO artistic diversity on that label.

c.) The fact that Wind-up, according to Trem in a Guitar One interview, was all set to drop the rest of the group like a hot potato if there was the slightest chance that they wouldn't make money, and only when Trem played them the "radio-friendly" cuts did they aquiesce to producing the new group.



Bull****. Trem is right on the money with this music and the singles will ruin any chance for credibility among musicians. They need to clear out of Wind-up ASAP.[/QUOTE]





I agree completely ripp. Everything you have said i have been telling people on messageboards. I also have heard that there will be more hard rock songs ( like Metalingus) on the next album. :thumb:



Also remember Wind up hit it big when Creed hit it big, I don't think they would dump the former members of creed........But i could be wrong. ANd if wind up dumps em, who cares? I am sure another label will pick em up.

[QUOTE=Iai]The problem is, right now, as far as the paymasters are concerned, Alter Bridge are the new Creed. Thus, any major label will want them to pump out more and more stuff that sounds like Creed, to cash in on that. An indie label would suit them musically, but it wouldn't give them the distribution or marketing they need.

Tricky situation, really.[/QUOTE]

Yes. That right there is the problem. All the labels want another major hit like creed, but any label that doesn't need that doesn't have the marketing power to get their music anywhere! Its a sad world, really. Oh well. As long as AB continues making music I don't *really* mind what their singles are, but it would be nice to say my favorite band is alter bridge without people getting a funny look on their face and saying "OH they are just another stupid creed"...

[QUOTE=splashfreak]Yes. That right there is the problem. All the labels want another major hit like creed, but any label that doesn't need that doesn't have the marketing power to get their music anywhere! Its a sad world, really. Oh well. As long as AB continues making music I don't *really* mind what their singles are, but it would be nice to say my favorite band is alter bridge without people getting a funny look on their face and saying "OH they are just another stupid creed"...[/QUOTE]

People will say "Oh they are just another stupid creed" because they are doing what they did with creed, which is coming out with more and more hit singles. Not to side with anyone on this topic but I solely believe AB is doing it for the money. Whether this is true or not is still to be determined.

I feel as long as you enjoy the music you listen to, then it shouldn't matter what other people think and you shouldn't worry about that affecting you personally. It's someones opinion that you should respect for what it's worth or disregard it. :cool:

[QUOTE=DanceToAllTheWrongSongs]People will say "Oh they are just another stupid creed" because they are doing what they did with creed, which is coming out with more and more hit singles. Not to side with anyone on this topic but I solely believe AB is doing it for the money. Whether this is true or not is still to be determined.

I feel as long as you enjoy the music you listen to, then it shouldn't matter what other people think and you shouldn't worry about that affecting you personally. It's someones opinion that you should respect for what it's worth or disregard it. :cool:[/QUOTE]

Sorry dude, but your logic just doesn't hold up. Thanks for not being a jerk about it, though. However, u are just plain WRONG with that first statement, that AB is doing it for the money...

HELLO?! Have you been alive the past ten years? Creed sold thirty million albums, had eight or something number one singles, sold out EVERY arena, and would continue doing so until the end of time basically as long as Tremonti wanted to continue writing Radio-Friendly Melodic hooks that make people go "ooh! shiny!".

So if they were just in it for the money... why would they ever break Creed up? Answer: they wouldn't. They actually want to make good music. If they wanted the money, making Alter Bridge just makes no sense...

The second part of of your post is basically correct, but whether or not its their opinion doesn't make it any different; I'd still rather be able to say Alter Bridge is my favorite band without people laughing cuz they have heard "In Loving Memory" on the radio :thumb:

(Although, this is kind of a moot point because most of my friends are the people who go "OOH SHINY!", and keep songs like "the reason" on the radio... :naughty: ) lol

I hope they leave Broken Wings as a single....it's a very nice song....

[QUOTE=bassplayer87]I hope they leave Broken Wings as a single....it's a very nice song....[/QUOTE]

Meh, it's very Creed-like and not instrumentally indicative of what the band can do. I'd push for quite a few more songs, including Down To My Last, before holding out for "Broken Wings."

i thought it was a pretty accurate review, sept i donno why everyone is badmouthing mark tremonti, hes one of the best guitarists of our time, and you guys shove him out like he thinks he's king of the world, maybe he does, i donno, but i dont think he does. hes excellent, good review

good review

[QUOTE=rhcpjf21]i thought it was a pretty accurate review, sept i donno why everyone is badmouthing mark tremonti, hes one of the best guitarists of our time, and you guys shove him out like he thinks he's king of the world, maybe he does, i donno, but i dont think he does. hes excellent, good review[/QUOTE]

Tremonti is a great guitarist compared to his contemporaries, but if you hold him up to the great guitarists of the 60's, 70's, and 80's (Hendrix, Clapton, SRV, hell even Randy Bachman is better than Tremonti IMO), he's pretty mediocre.

All in all, I don't like Creed/Alter Bridge very much. Methinks its partly that they're too similar to other bands, partly personal preference.

^Alter Bridge is semi-similar to some bands, but almost none have the talent that they have.

And yeah, Tremonti isn't Hendrix, but nobody is Hendrix...

[QUOTE=splashfreak]^Alter Bridge is semi-similar to some bands, but almost none have the talent that they have.

And yeah, Tremonti isn't Hendrix, but nobody is Hendrix...[/QUOTE]

Meh, if they make an effort to distinguish themselves from the rest of the crowd (i.e. make the guitar less overpowering, make the bass audible) they would be a lot better.

Actually, I have to agree with that. I'd really love to hear the bass one of these days...

Album Rating: 3.5

Agreed about the bass......I think they should either make Marshall stand out more or make him right some cool parts. Being a bassist i wasn't impressed but thats why i give the album 4/5 instead of a 4.25/5. The only strong thing about the bass is that he has to keep up with tremonti, which is no easy task.





Hopefully he will come up with some cool **** on the next album.

Yeh, the bass just doesn't "go"... if u get me. In My own prison the bass was pretty good... some cool lines.

Now, well it's just guitar and drums.

At a show last month Mark Tremonti let some people go to hus truck and listen to a tape that had between 20-30 songs on it. They were all recorded by Mark singing and playing, some were on the ODR album and he said some of the others would be on the next album....although they will have changed alot with the input from the others in the band. One of the people that listened to the tape said there were some really heavy songs.

I liked Creed's songs like My sacrifice, Higher, My own prison, and one last breath. Those songs were awesome, and if that lead singer wasn't so freaking religious band would probably have gone a long way. Alter Bridge deserves alot more than Creed since they probably all agree on what genre/type they should play. And no Jesus rocks lyrics anymore. Mark Tremonti's guitar skills are awesome.