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bloc
August 19th 2019


70880 Comments


SEA

KIIIIIING

FlakMT
August 19th 2019


266 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

"Why can't these fools learn from great vocalists like James hetfield and Corey taylor?"



"WHY can't everyone be the GOAT?" lol. Well let's focus on screams. The Corey type growl is more/very difficult to pull off and extremely energy draining. Especially the Iowa one. Maximum output. He mixes it up a little nowadays. So it's maybe 75% of the prime scream intensity and then the the other 25% are "fake". You can pull off the iowa type even with low volume with the right technique. But it will sound less intense and somewhat "fake". Because it is. Many lesser known vocalists do that. There is a fine line and the best vocalists can control that percentage without sacrificing most of the core sound character. But the majority opts for either a high scream (as you noticed correctly) or a very deep growl (inhale being the easiest here). Why do they do that? Because it's more efficient, less stressful (especially live of course) and easier to learn (often: what they learned first). Maybe they will tell you otherwise. People defend who they are and what they (can) do. But there is a reason why early Slipknot was THAT successful despite having close to no singing sections. Big part of that is Corey Taylor and his superior scream.

Relinquished
August 19th 2019


50167 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

"Screams don't belong in metal, they didn't in the 80s and shouldnt do now"



tell that to King Diamond

MarsKid
Emeritus
August 19th 2019


21057 Comments


inb4 "Those aren't screams"

FlakMT
August 19th 2019


266 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Shouting, growling and so on fall under screaming. Of course we can be more precise if we need to. Rock - Metal

FearThyEvil
August 19th 2019


19455 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Trying this out now

TheSpirit
Emeritus
August 19th 2019


30304 Comments


"Flak fair enough but please stop calling them screams. Screams = screamo. Harsh vocals are not screams, they are a mixture of aggressive shouting, yelling, growls etc. I mean the odd "scream" is fine but screams don't belong in metal, they didn't in the 80s and shouldnt do now"

shut upppppppppppppp



FearThyEvil
August 19th 2019


19455 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

This is pretty damn boring so far but I won't lie, Chuck Billy sounded fucking great on his guest performance. It's insane to know how good he sounds after he dealt with that throat cancer. He's never sounded so good.

FearThyEvil
August 19th 2019


19455 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

I am Broken Too is the most safe and godawful song this band has ever written. Makes me cringe

Deathconscious
August 19th 2019


27972 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

"Flak fair enough but please stop calling them screams. Screams = screamo. Harsh vocals are not screams, they are a mixture of aggressive shouting, yelling, growls etc. I mean the odd 'scream' is fine but screams don't belong in metal, they didn't in the 80s and shouldnt do now"



Lmao

FearThyEvil
August 19th 2019


19455 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Yeah, imagine being that dumb lol.

Deathconscious
August 19th 2019


27972 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Thats going on my copypasta list for sure.

FearThyEvil
August 19th 2019


19455 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

But for real though, Chuck Billy feature sounded fucking great.... sadly the only thing on here I can really consider good.

Thalassic
August 19th 2019


5740 Comments


Yeah that quote's gonna be a hit at the parties.

leku200
August 19th 2019


42 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

FlakMT Good description and write up. I've been listening to metal for a while, admittedly haven't paid much attention to vocal techniques. Some mentioned Corey Taylor. Anyone help me out, is there a baseline of metal singers used to measure other bands against on technique, quality, etc? Seems like a tough call to make, aside from personal taste.

FearThyEvil
August 19th 2019


19455 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

For real though, this album is awful! I can't even sit through another minute of boredom after I got done this.

Thalassic
August 19th 2019


5740 Comments


Chuck Billy is one of my favorite thrash vocalists
Maybe it's a bit of pedestrian choice, but that's just how good he is imho

FearThyEvil
August 19th 2019


19455 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

He's fantastic but it's insane to me how after recovering from the throat cancer, he's sounded the best he's ever been. Like legit, his vocals are top fucking notch

Relinquished
August 19th 2019


50167 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

the last 3 testament records were more solid than most thrash of any their contemporaries had released recently

Pikazilla
August 19th 2019


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Still waiting on that new Coroner album



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