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tectactoe
June 2nd 2025


9228 Comments


Nice rev DKF. Pos (in spirit).
After a few more listens over the weekend, my feelings are generally the same: I like this substantially more than both leaving meaning and The Beggar—I think it's more consistent, more unified in tone, and generally less enervating despite its length.
On the other hand, it still pales in comparison to all three of The Seer, To Be Kind. and The Glowing Man, and continues to feel like they're straining reaching for a bit of that past glory instead of switching their sound up and trying something totally new (which is honestly where they've had the most success over the last four decades). A record like this would've felt more avant-garde and experimental in 2010. These days? (Especially in this discography?) Reheated leftovers.

And to be fair, these are leftovers of an expensive, exquisite, once-in-a-lifetime three Michelin star meal that still taste pretty goddamn great the second day. But shoveling them in your face out of a Styrofoam box over your kitchen sink doesn't replicate the feeling of being in that no-jeans-allowed, dimly lit restaurant with exotic fish swimming in the walls and a dedicate sommelier for each table, y'know?

DadKungFu
Emeritus
June 2nd 2025


6144 Comments

Album Rating: 4.2

This more a Le Bernardin in the current day vs 2010 situation imo these ain't leftovers but it's the same ingredients so the meal isn't as paradigm shattering

Comatorium.
June 2nd 2025


5525 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Not the point but uh what classy restaurant has fish in the walls

tectactoe
June 2nd 2025


9228 Comments


Rainforest Cafe

AnimalForce1
Emeritus
June 2nd 2025


1594 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

Obviously the classiest of restaurants

AnimalForce1
Emeritus
June 2nd 2025


1594 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

Album's decent. I spoke about this before in other Swans threads, but I think this sort of drone rock tends to lose me when there's just as much empty space in between the big moments. The Merge is incredible though, that intro jumpscared me so badly

KillJester
June 2nd 2025


216 Comments


Would do evil sexy things to hear The Healers live.

Comatorium.
June 2nd 2025


5525 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

The hourlong version of the healers (was still the beggar then) they played on the last tour was fuckin monumental

Tb1114
June 2nd 2025


822 Comments


This is better than their last two?

Wildcardbitchesss
June 2nd 2025


19755 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Didn’t know this was coming out, gonna eat some mushrooms and try to meet god

Comatorium.
June 3rd 2025


5525 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

It’s vastly better than the last two, and I loved them both

Wizard
June 3rd 2025


20629 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

You're assessment of The Beggar is just flat out dumb and it continues on with your comparison to the Seer. Did you even listen to this album?

DadKungFu
Emeritus
June 3rd 2025


6144 Comments

Album Rating: 4.2

I am assessment of The Beggar as a wheezy plot-loss is debatable but also true

Wizard
June 3rd 2025


20629 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Apologies, I just reread your review and I will admit I'm a huge Swans fan and may have taken a little offense to the general assessment. Can't say I've never done this to albums before. Coming back to albums years later sheds them in new light.



This is definitely another awesome entry into Swans discog but time will tell/ reveal.



Cheers!

DadKungFu
Emeritus
June 3rd 2025


6144 Comments

Album Rating: 4.2

Woo! Hatchet buried!

EyesWideShut
June 3rd 2025


6127 Comments


Im not sure if Swans album covers are brilliant or trivial

TheArtofTheGanja
June 3rd 2025


457 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I didn’t realize it was dirt on the cover until I got the CD. Prob some symbolism there with birth and death (return to dirt)

EphemeralEternity
June 3rd 2025


4937 Comments


Good stuff but Swans/Gira have always been one of those artists where a huge constituent of audiences think the sun shines out of their ass and they can do no wrong, like admiring an item accidentally left behind at an art gallery as some avant garde piece

Lil ugly mane comes to mind as well

They're some of my favorite artists but you just know that anything they drop is going to get at least a 3.5 regardless of what it sounds like

Veldin
June 3rd 2025


5891 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Is Tundra a troll?

Tunaboy45
June 3rd 2025


18960 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

2 full listens now, it's a very special album



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