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anode
August 12th 2023


2173 Comments


If a shit show is people with differing opinions coming together for discussion then sure

botb
August 12th 2023


17968 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah that’s totally what happens on Sputnikmusic.com

anode
August 12th 2023


2173 Comments


Lol it’s my favorite kind of shit show

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
August 12th 2023


27584 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Jk imma read it just wanted to hate

MeatSalad
August 12th 2023


18627 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

She actually did it lol. Respect for actually taking the time to bust out a review from one dude's comment

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
August 12th 2023


27584 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

No need to say “in this review” in a review, hardly necessary in many academic essays. The effort at signposting is appreciated just think the clarification isn’t worth the suffering/eyes-already-glazing-over of the tone. Plus if you’re gonna use that address you should do what your teachers said and present some hint of your argument



Since you talk about hip hop in general terms (acclaim as in this genre especially (?) arising from thematic/sonic integration and innovation) and since so much hip hop depends on the structure of the repetitive loop im curious what makes madlib’s better or worse in particular: you’re not gonna convert too many people clicking on this review to the aisle of thinking loops in hip hop are too simplistic or limiting.



Use present tense to describe art maneuvers, an album isn’t “was” when it comes to aesthetics



“Conjure the tempest” thing seems like a handwave-y uninteresting metaphor for me, doesn’t clarify much—for one, the tempest provides the innovation, the brilliance, or vice versa?



The failure of meat grinder to be an “auditory abstract” etc etc is counted as a fault, but where is the proof that it sets that goal out for itself and falls short? I could see it, but you’re not making it clear



I actually like the “idealism” you warn us about: gives me a clearer sense of what might please you more, alternate visions



The point about the supervlllain theme not landing fully is something, maybe could use expansion but feels grounded



“Parallely” can’t be a word…”in parallel”?



You should explain why that quotation of a verse exemplifies your point, would concretize it. English teacher vibe never just “airdrop” a quotation or end on one



the last sentence feels unrelated and honestly should prob incorporate your take more



Worthwhile review imo, understand your perspective but had to do too much inferencing as to how you got there. More precision

AsleepInTheBack
Staff Reviewer
August 12th 2023


10240 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

This ^



Rev does have a general air of stating your case but not then arguing / articulating it, and (as rob says) judging songs / ideas against standards that they weren’t obviously created with reference to. Wouldn’t be so bad if it weren’t such a highly regarded album, but if you’re gonna lay out the contrarian case for something most folks seem to like (and not just that, but an album regarded as one of the best in its sub genre) you’re gonna need to prop it up with some meaty reasoning or else irk people more than you otherwise need to.

BaselineOOO
August 12th 2023


2580 Comments


I appreciate the critique, very accurate and helpful. I'll try and be more careful on my next review. Noted, and thank you!

FadedSun
August 12th 2023


3196 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

No.

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
August 12th 2023


27584 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Aw thanks baseline sorry for hatin imma delete the hate. I think you have a lot of potential as a writer with unintuitive perspectives and I mean that hopefully not at all condescendingly

anode
August 12th 2023


2173 Comments


The verbose way which you write is sure to rub people the wrong way but not sure if that’s intentional or not haha

PotsyTater
August 12th 2023


10100 Comments


Baseline gonna baseline. The only thing in here worth offence is Tundra’s dumbass comment Tbqh

PotsyTater
August 12th 2023


10100 Comments


You could just smell fadedsun and botb’s butthurt before you even clicked this thread 👌

FadedSun
August 12th 2023


3196 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

You want to say something?

DadKungFu
Staff Reviewer
August 12th 2023


4944 Comments


Respect for the rev and making a largely coherent critique that was sure to draw the ire of literally everyone, Sona's eval was spot on and I've got nothing to add

botb
August 12th 2023


17968 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Pots out here frantically refreshing the homepage looking for disagreeing opinions in threads to stir shit in for no reason lmao

Hyperion1001
Emeritus
August 12th 2023


26195 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

got ‘em again

Deez
August 12th 2023


10336 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Gtfo

botb
August 12th 2023


17968 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I feel like saying you dislike this is more understandable than saying it’s average. This record is anything but

PotsyTater
August 12th 2023


10100 Comments


Midlib amirite



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