Phoebe Bridgers Punisher
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Sunnyvale
Emeritus
September 19th 2020


6510 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

So good...



Halloween and Moon Song were the last tunes on here to really hit me, but at this point I'm a big fan of every song on here (to varying degrees)

neekafat
Emeritus
September 19th 2020


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.7 | Sound Off

[2] yeah

Sowing
Moderator
September 19th 2020


45545 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

[3]. The only song that still hasn't hit me is Garden Song, but I've learned to tolerate it. Every single other song is phenomenal.

tyman128
Emeritus
September 19th 2020


4898 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

The glorious progression of Sowing initially giving this a 3.5 and slowly growing into a 5 review... brings tears to my eyes

neekafat
Emeritus
September 20th 2020


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.7 | Sound Off

I knew it would happen, the prophecy has been fulfilled (;

Sowing
Moderator
September 20th 2020


45545 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

To be honest I don't think the tracklist does this any favors. Having Garden Song, Halloween, and Moon Song in the first 6 songs kills the flow and increases the likelihood of first time listeners tuning out. Obviously track ordering is pretty arbitrary, but I've been listening to this since July and I can't experience it any other way now:



01 Kyoto

02 Punisher

03 ICU

04 Chinese Satellite

05 Halloween

06 Savior Complex

07 Graceland Too

08 Garden Song

09 Moon Song

10 DVD Menu

11 I Know The End



I already know Neek hates this ordering, but if you've been intrigued by this album and can't get it to click, you should try it this way. It worked for me.



tyman128
Emeritus
September 20th 2020


4898 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I'll have to check that out just to see if it does anything for me

Sowing
Moderator
September 20th 2020


45545 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

you already have it 5'd so I don't expect you to hugely benefit from it, but go for it

tyman128
Emeritus
September 20th 2020


4898 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

goin for that 6/5 Sowing

Sowing
Moderator
September 20th 2020


45545 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Ambitious, but you have my respect.

Project
September 20th 2020


5960 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

so glad this amazing album this has a sowing 5 review

neekafat
Emeritus
September 20th 2020


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.7 | Sound Off

"I already know Neek hates this ordering"



Ty for saving me the comment < 3



My main problem is pushing DVD Menu so far back, opening with it is like essential to the albums feeling of dread and like every other theme in it

neekafat
Emeritus
September 20th 2020


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.7 | Sound Off

Regardless I will try that order sometime (:

Sowing
Moderator
September 20th 2020


45545 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

You could always move DVD menu to the opener and it wouldn't have much impact on my ordering. I just like the suspense it builds for I Know The End.

neekafat
Emeritus
September 20th 2020


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.7 | Sound Off

I actually haven't listened to them back-to-back I don't think, I imagine it would be dope tbh

Just overall narrative bs and what not

tyman128
Emeritus
September 20th 2020


4898 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I actually really enjoy that tracklisting Sowing, adds some more variety to that stretch in the middle (even if I do love the more subdued "drag" of that section).

And yeah, DVD Menu into I Know The End is really really sweet

Sowing
Moderator
September 21st 2020


45545 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Glad you dug it. Like I said, it feels weird to me to listen to it any other way now.

BlushfulHippocrene
Emeritus
September 21st 2020


4053 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

DVD Menu doesn't make sense without Garden Song!!! Will read this review soon. :3

Sowing
Moderator
September 21st 2020


45545 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I don't get the connection between the two songs personally. The music video for Garden Song starts with the outro from DVD menu but the actual track itself on the album doesn't, so there's not much thematic tie unless I'm missing something which is always possible.

BlushfulHippocrene
Emeritus
September 21st 2020


4053 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

To overstate it: beside the fact that DVD Menu flows really well sonically into Garden Song with the guitar (though, with its strings, before I Know the End is definitely the second-best place for it), it's definitely setup to be an opener of some kind. Introduces that theme of (re)playing memories through a kind of screen, and its title obviously places it in opposition to I Know the End. (Apparent) intention obviously isn't a good basis for why something works or not; I think it works, though, especially given the album's structure. Garden Song also feels likes a callback to Smoke Signals, so its nice to have a buffer so as not to make Punisher feel like a reshash. (Although, moving Garden Song toward the end obviously gets removes the potential for that.)



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