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theBoneyKing
January 18th 2020


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I don’t wanna get too into the details of those accusations but apparently all he did is use his position in a band to get with a girl which I guess could be kinda shady depending on the context but that’s also what every guy in every band ever does. It’s not like he assaulted anyone or anything.


This is over simplifying it but I agree he didn't actually do anything particularly "bad", he was probably a bit emotionally manipulative but not in a way that millions of other guys haven't. It's a complicated story nonetheless, I def encourage anybody interested to read that p4k article chan posted.

mynameischan
Staff Reviewer
January 18th 2020


2407 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

the new yorker article gives more details, like i say in the review, about the woman who made the accusation. from what i can tell, evan entered a relationship with one of pinegrove's crew members. because of his position in the band and her position as an employee of that band, she saw him as having an inordinate amount of sway over the dynamics of their relationship, which i'm sure is true. it seems like he wasn't willing to view it in those terms, at least until the whole thing blew up.



one of the reasons i say that the new yorker article tries to be an expose instead of a profile is that, even though he cites the pitchfork article, the author completely ignores the way the news broke, with the woman from punktalks basically betraying the accuser's trust and trying to take down pinegrove and promote her business at the same time.

theBoneyKing
January 18th 2020


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Haven't read the NY article so can't give thoughts on it, but yeah I was really disturbed by all the details about the punktalks woman; basically the whole thing just got blown way out of proportion.

Scoot
January 18th 2020


24146 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

yup this is great as always



they are the chevelle of indie rock

luci
January 18th 2020


12844 Comments


Evan accused himself preemptively and inflated the situation beyond what was needed with that confessional post. The dedication to softboi male feminism is extremely on brand though.

BlushfulHippocrene
Emeritus
January 19th 2020


4053 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Super interesting analysis, very nice work!!! I love this album.

HBFS
January 19th 2020


1599 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

how about that ending to that kacey musgraves song, fuck i mean endless:



WHEN THIS IS OVER

WHEN THIS IS UNDER

A FOOT OF WATER

HOLD ME FOREVER



ooft

Conmaniac
January 19th 2020


27771 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

This is v good. Back half is stunning

MiloRuggles
Emeritus
January 19th 2020


3242 Comments


Love your work xoxo8===Dxoxo

Conmaniac
January 19th 2020


27771 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Endless is Kasey Musgraves song? Oh cool

Deathconscious
January 19th 2020


27895 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"Im annoyed that people like this >:["



You sound very mature.

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
January 19th 2020


38368 Comments


The fuck is "softboi male feminism"? And how is it on brand?

mynameischan
Staff Reviewer
January 19th 2020


2407 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yeah i'm not sure what that's about. it seems pretty obvious that evan knew that punktalks would make things worse for him if he didn't make a preemptive statement, so that's why he did it

Eons
January 19th 2020


3778 Comments


What does getting better really mean though. Better by what metric or whos metric?

mynameischan
Staff Reviewer
January 19th 2020


2407 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

by your metric

Tyler.
January 19th 2020


19035 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

didnt know this was a thing. really like the artwork tho

theBoneyKing
January 19th 2020


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"The Alarmist" is really good.



Interesting that they seem to be leaning harder on country and less on emo with each release.

HBFS
January 19th 2020


1599 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

“Endless is Kasey Musgraves song? Oh cool”



Nah it’s an original, it just sounds like it could be to me haha



Sowing
Moderator
January 20th 2020


45545 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

This is good, but I definitely prefer Skylight. Really enjoying how consistent this is, though.

butt.
January 20th 2020


11429 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Damn you weren’t lying about tougher ratings in 2020

This would be a sowing 4 if not 4.5 in 2019



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