Weezer Pinkerton
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J() Alexander
August 9th 2019


7914 Comments


There's more than enough in the music to dislike this thing, no need to talk about the lyrics if you want to dislike it.

KingQueenKnave
August 9th 2019


10 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

For the record, I like Kanye.





Kompys2000
August 9th 2019


9483 Comments


How is it wrong to criticize lyrics on ethical grounds? If a lyric puts forth a particular worldview, every aspect of the music is also working in service of that lyric and that worldview. If a song with sexist lyrics also has a really catchy tune I can (and imo should) still criticize it for being sexist, because the melody and rhythm can't refute that sexism. There are definitely genres where things revolve less around the lyrics, like I think it would be dumb to criticize Metallica or Judas Priest for not having profound, thought-provoking lyrics, but to act like ethical criticism of music isn't legitimate is just straight-up anti-art.

For the record I mostly agree that this review isn't a great critique, I just think "lol lyrics don't matter" is a shitty way to defend music that contains questionable messages.

J() Alexander
August 9th 2019


7914 Comments


Lyrics are epic because of El Scorcho. "El Scorcho! Ay cabron! Goddamn you half-Japanese girls, do it to me every time. Oh, the redhead said you shred the cello and I'm jello, baby", simply amazing.

J() Alexander
August 9th 2019


7914 Comments


wtf is a "scorcho" anyway

Trophycase
August 9th 2019


1931 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

He's not advancing or supporting some "worldview". The lyrics are cringey to anyone with a brain. That's part of the music. Nobody is endorsing this shit, just take it for what it is. Are you making the argument that no questionable viewpoints or fucked up emotional states should be expressed through music or art? Being painfully honest and revealing of fucked up mental states doesn't tacitly support some sexist agenda lol.



If the main thrust of your argument is: "I don't like what he's talking about because it makes me feel uncomfortable, therefore I don't like the music" then that's an extremely shallow critique, especially considering you at one point enjoyed the album, so you don't have any issue with it musically, per se.

Trophycase
August 9th 2019


1931 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

A scorcho is a spicy shit you take after eating too much curry.

J() Alexander
August 9th 2019


7914 Comments


That song just gets better the more I know about it. Still not Tired of Sex though.

Kompys2000
August 9th 2019


9483 Comments


It's fine for questionable viewpoints or negative emotions to exist in art, I think we can all agree art would be pretty fucking boring otherwise. None of this is about what should or shouldn't be "allowed". But I think if an album or song is putting forth a certain viewpoint then that viewpoint and the way it's presented are worth examining. If you read Pinkerton as a critique of Rivers' immaturity and selfishness then that's totally legitimate, but it's also not the only way of reading it that exists.

deathschool
August 9th 2019


29477 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This is the correct take.

StrizzMatik
August 9th 2019


4232 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Good god, the cringe in this review is real



Complaining about sexist overtones and retroactively judging WEEZER lyrics as 'problematic' is just about the most pathetic thing ever. Do stuffed animals scare you too?

Trophycase
August 10th 2019


1931 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"If you read Pinkerton as a critique of Rivers' immaturity and selfishness"



Not really as a critique. More as a presentation of those things rather than an advancement or endorsement.

Kompys2000
August 10th 2019


9483 Comments


See, I would argue that presenting a viewpoint without criticizing it is, 9 times out of 10, functionally the same thing as endorsing it.

Trebor.
Emeritus
August 10th 2019


60329 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"wtf is a "scorcho" anyway"



named for del scorcho hot sauce at del taco

J() Alexander
August 11th 2019


7914 Comments


I bet it tastes like shit.

deathschool
August 11th 2019


29477 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Nah, it’s actually pretty good. You should try it!

KingQueenKnave
August 13th 2019


10 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

whatever. you all win. no more reviews.

deathschool
August 13th 2019


29477 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

You wrote a review?

BigPleb
August 13th 2019


65808 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

im tired

KingQueenKnave
August 16th 2019


10 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

"You wrote a review?"



Yes I fucking did.



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