Pain of Salvation Scarsick
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e210013
August 15th 2017


6391 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Nice, to see that. I don't listen to that rock opera since centuries, but I always loved it deeply. Still, I'm not really astonished by the influences suffered by Daniel by that opera. Anyway, the man has a great music taste and all men with good music taste was influenced by that opera, like both of us. For instance, I'm pretty sure that Arjen drank too much from that rock opera for his musical project Ayreon.

About my memory, isn't as good as it was. The years my friend, the years. However, it was me who wrote the review, so, it's normal I've some memory of it. I can still keep some of my good qualities, fortunately, despite the relentless passing of the years.

TheIntruder
August 16th 2017


936 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Great review man. It is true that when you love something you always defend it with all your heart and soul. Nice.

It is true that Scarsick is not for everyone but has a bunch of really good tracks. Pos.

e210013
August 16th 2017


6391 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Thanks man. I'm very happy that you liked my review too, despite you don't have a so positive point of view about it, as I have, and as you can see about the comments about the album. Definitely, "Scarsick" was and continues being a very contoversial album.

TheIntruder
August 16th 2017


936 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I saw that. But I knew that before. For instance you and Jethro have a different opinion about your favourite albums from POS. What is your top?

e210013
August 16th 2017


6391 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It's very simple. POS is a band that I know very well. So, with the exception of their last album, of which I haven't a copy yet and that I've only listened to a couple of tracks from it, my top is:

1 - Remedy Lane"

2 - The Perfect Element, Part 1

3 - Entropia

4 - Be

5 - One Hour By The Cocrete Lake

6 - Scarsick

7 - Road Salt Two

8 - Road Salt One

As you mentioned my differences about Jethro, I really think that with this band they ere very few. I'm convinced that his top is in general very similar to mine.

I think his top is, and I swear that I didn't took a look to his ratings before:

1 - Remedy Lane"

2 - The Perfect Element, Part 1

3 - Be

4 - Entropia

5 - One Hour By The Cocrete Lake

6 - Road Salt One

7 - Road Salt Two

8 - Scarsick

My only doubt is about the Road Salt series. I'm not sure about which does he prefers.

TheIntruder
August 16th 2017


936 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Thanks e21. Nice top. Both are nice tops. I need to check some of their stuff yet.

e210013
August 16th 2017


6391 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Thanks too. I really think so. Both are great tops from POS. Still, we need to check if I was right with Jethro's top. I'm sure that he will confirm it soon as he can.

Jethro42
August 16th 2017


18287 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Spot on, man. It's pretty much the right ranking. But after couple of other listens of Scarsick, I finally prefer it over The Road Salt series. Part I or part II, that is the question. Both have their standout tracks, but they just have their share of average songs.

Be is awesome, but it drags here and there and it's not enough accessible to start with. I had it as my favorite PoS album for a while and it contains some of my favorite tracks by them. There are also good but not great tracks as well, and its share of annoying sampling and spoken words, but it comes with the package and it's all fine at the end of the day.

Entropia is a fantastic debut album with plenty of gems. Album was already mature and full of promise for the things to come. One Hour By The Concrete Lake could have been Entropia part II. You haven't named their latest By The Passing Light of Day. I guess you have to listen to it still more. I'd rank it after or before Scarsick, not sure yet. Perfect Element and Remedy Lane really are their best and are interchangeable.

e210013
August 16th 2017


6391 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

So, I knew that I wasn't so wrong about your top.

I'm very glad that you have changed your opinion a bit about "Scarsick". The album is really good but never was understood by many people. Somehow, it represents a kind of caricature of our society, and many of us don't like to see that reality or we aren't ready to see and accept it.

About "Be" I completelly agree with you. It's almost an inaccessible album, very hard to uderstand and immerge inside of it. It's perhaps an album too much pretentious, but it has some amazing moments, really.

I haven't named their latest "By The Passing Light of Day", because I really haven't noticed your opinion about it, until now. I don't know the album very well, yet, but I'm very curious about it. I'm going to give a purchase order to my usual supplier, very soon.

Jethro42
August 16th 2017


18287 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Yeah I can see that Scarsick can shock several sensible ears because Daniel is not too careful in his way to talk about America, but to me and to those who don't bother with lyrical contents, it's all fine. Maybe one day I'll start checking the lyrics a bit closer just by curiosity. One thing is sure, My feelings about the album are strictly based upon a musical point of view, and I think I heard it enough times to keep my rating intact.

Also I changed my mind about The Road Salt series. Both have their standout tracks, but they also have too many songs that would have needed more works into them.

By the Passing Light of Day is an happy return to their prog metal roots, but it sounds unique and different from all the rest of the discog... I have to relisten....there are really great tracks into it.

Koris
Emeritus
August 16th 2017


22627 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I've never heard a single song of this band, but all I ever hear about them is either intense love or total disgust. So I guess I'm pretty curious about trying their stuff

e210013
August 16th 2017


6391 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah, I agree with "Road Salt" series.

About "Scarsick" you need to pay full attention to the lyrics. They're very corrosive and somehow are them that guide the music on the album. As I wrote on my review, This is perhaps the POS album with better lyrics. Anyway, in all POS albums we must pay much attention to the lyrics, specially because they're all conceptual albums. And you know my friend. On almost all conceptual albums the lyrics are as important as the music, despite many of us give less importance to them, me included in many cases. And this is even much more true in the cases where the languafe used isn't our mother tongue.

Ocean of Noise
August 16th 2017


11368 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Total disgust? Most people either love this band or don't listen to them from what I can tell.



Check The Perfect Element Part 1 and Remedy Lane immediately tho

Jethro42
August 16th 2017


18287 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I have an old top 20 list, my man. But I'd need to seriously redo it...My taste has changed since then it seems. They are prog metal, but more into the prog side of the equation. Their strenght resides in their melodies and the musicianship and above all, the vocal capabilities of Daniel Gildenlow.

Try this song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uw5-Nxaw0A

e210013
August 16th 2017


6391 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Do that Soccer, if you like prog metal. As Jethro advised, it's better to begin with "The Perfect Element, Part 1" and "Remedy Lane", perhaps by this order. Both are amazing.

Ocean of Noise
August 16th 2017


11368 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I think Remedy Lane might click more immediately tbh but TPE is my fav.

e210013
August 16th 2017


6391 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

For me it's the opposite, Ocean. But I admit that is a matter of taste. Both are equal in terms of quality. Maybe "The Perfect Element" be more melodic for a beginner.

Jethro42
August 16th 2017


18287 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

You say the truth e21. Will pay attention to the lyrics in my future PoS listens, especially for Scarsick.

As for By the Passing Light of Day, it's an happy return to their prog metal roots, but it sounds unique and different from all the rest of their discog... I need to relisten....but I can tell there are really great tracks into it.



Jethro42
August 16th 2017


18287 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

As for Perfect Element or Remedy Lane, I think the former is more immediate, but Remedy Lane has more meat. Both are a good way to start.

e210013
August 16th 2017


6391 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I'm very glad that "By The Passing Light Of Day" represents a return to their prog metal roots. But in contrary to many I don't have any problem with changes. After all we are talking about prog rock, and above all, we are talking about POS, a band that loves to change, a band that loves to progress. Daniel was right. They're really a different band, indeed.



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