Album Rating: 5.0
ISIS all the way
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Also the pioneers of Post-Metal are Neurosis
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Album Rating: 5.0
col and isis = both 4.9568236/5
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Album Rating: 5.0
more than one artist/group can pioneer a genre/sound, this argument just happened earlier this week I think
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nope only one
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Album Rating: 5.0
yea, we're discussing quality here not who started what
but Oceanic was a big influence in the post metal scene so..
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Album Rating: 5.0
one of the main influences
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"more than one artist/group can pioneer a genre/sound, this argument just happened earlier this week I think"
So a band can still be pioneer of genre when another pioneer is over ten years older?
I mean Neurosis has been going since 1985 and ISIS started in 1997.
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I'm not arguing Isis' influence, that's undeniable, but pioneering?
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Album Rating: 5.0
'So a band can still be pioneer of genre when another pioneer is over ten years older?'
well if you say it that way then.. yea
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Album Rating: 5.0
'So a band can still be pioneer of genre when another pioneer is over ten years older?'
idk I guess it depends on what fake dictionary you're getting your "pioneer" definition from
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Album Rating: 5.0
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pi-o-neer
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Album Rating: 5.0
that's what I was thinking, pain of mind isn't really the original pm document
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Album Rating: 5.0
the logic behind the col vs isis vs neurosis debate is fucking retarded
post metal is somehow the only genre in the world where only the pioneering band can be good but all other genres there can be at least two or three makes sense right
This is the most intelligent thing anyone has posted here in forever.
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Album Rating: 5.0
agreed
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Album Rating: 4.5
Oceanic is much better
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Album Rating: 5.0
thanks for the comments guys, my first review  and Oceanic is still amazing but Panopticon just has that edge.
If you havent you should check out their Mosquito control EP where they have some of their heaviest stuff
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Album Rating: 5.0
potsy (:
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Neurosis' Through Silver in Blood was released in 1996, and so began post-metal. Isis then ripped off that album pretty much and here we are.
Of course I still love Isis but smd
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