Bathory The Return of the Darkness and Evil
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Crysis
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July 28th 2011


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Album Rating: 3.5

as far as im concerned bathory was the first bm band

Hyperion1001
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July 28th 2011


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Venom really didn't create the sound they sound nothing like bathory's s/t did.

as far as im concerned bathory was the first bm band[2]

TheNotrap
July 28th 2011


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Don't get me wrong. In my opinion Bathory was the first BM band



When I said "Venom created the sound..." I was talking about the raw heavy playing and production. In my opinion Venom is NWOBHM. However these guys had a strong impact on Quorthon's songwriting.

Hyperbore
July 28th 2011


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Album Rating: 3.5

It's pretty much common knowledge (at least in metal circles) that Bathory shamelessly ripped off multiple things, Venom included. And then lied about it, probably for lulz.



That being said, Venom blows, whereas Bathory rules. I wouldn't say any of his music was really black metal, it just set the musical jump-off point, much like Mercyful Fate. This album and the one after it came pretty close, though.

TheNotrap
July 28th 2011


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Humm...In my opinion this record is definitely Black Metal. 1 Wave BM.



Funny that you included Fate here. King's lyrics were extreme influential sure. Their first EP has some moments close to BM but Fate in my opinion is classic Heavy Metal...Well not really classic metal....something between Metal, Speed/Thrash and Black Metal. It's Mercyful Fate...hard to label.

Hyperbore
July 29th 2011


856 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

As far as I'm concerned, genre categorization is more useful when it's based on how the music's built than on how it sounds. You can make any song sound like any genre with the right instrumentation, but it's still the same song. In that sense, what seems to define black metal is long melodic phrases that develop from or cycle into each other, with very little of the wild, almost prismatic deviations that characterize death metal. Bathory doesn't have much of that, although there are instances of it. He started off doing a mixture of thrash and speed metal then gradually went into something closer to epic Manowar songs(another band he claimed to never had listened to, heh).

TheNotrap
July 29th 2011


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Intelligent comment Hyperbore. Not usual on sputnik ;)



Yep Quorthon was very...let's say unique...He said things like:

I only heard Venom after recording my first LP...really...?



...unique character



TheNotrap
August 7th 2011


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Quorthon's The Return is another extreme influential record to the black metal scene. The Return of the Darkness and Evil is definitely the best song here. A BM anthem.

TheNotrap
August 7th 2011


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Yep Venom and Motorhead were his major influences. But Venom surely was the major. Even the band name was picked on a Venom album.

TheNotrap
August 7th 2011


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haha I know. Quorthon said many strange things...

If you read one 84 interview and then one from 87 you find many contradictions



Well...his major influence is hard to hide...

rasputin
August 31st 2011


14968 Comments


goddamn this album is so good

ruled when i first heard it and rules as i play now

TheNotrap
August 31st 2011


19369 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

Title track rules

Ire
October 8th 2011


41944 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

rules

Ire
October 8th 2011


41944 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i think i like this more than s/t

Crysis
Emeritus
October 8th 2011


17652 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

rules

Ire
December 8th 2011


41944 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

sup poser

Crysis
Emeritus
December 8th 2011


17652 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

dude i bathory harder than most people here

Ire
December 8th 2011


41944 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

lol okay 3.5

Crysis
Emeritus
December 8th 2011


17652 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

s/t and under the sign

qwe3
December 8th 2011


21836 Comments


bathory m/



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