Rishloo Feathergun
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Powerban
December 1st 2009


2384 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Most likely a 4/4.5 like their previous. I doubt they will have taken the leaps and bounds to get a classic rating from me. I have a feeling with a bigger budget these guys would be able to.

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
December 1st 2009


38341 Comments


Meant to say subjective; sorry, really off right now.

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
December 1st 2009


38341 Comments


Objective kind of works too, but it seems retarded.

Sach360
December 1st 2009


47 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

@ Powerban, as much as i loved Eidolon, Feathergun is a huge leap and you can hardly tell that it isn't a big budget recording, the production is fantastic.

Powerban
December 1st 2009


2384 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I didn't mean production wise, Eidolon was already pretty good that way. I'm just talking about how with more money they could get better equipment, try new instruments.



This coupled with 4/5 albums of experience could lead to a winner.



Downside is that with success can bring lack of motivation and happening to be uninspiring.



Doubt this will happen though, the lyrics, vocals and music have all been pretty tight.





Edit: Lol troll rating here?

Sach360
December 1st 2009


47 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yeah i noticed that, what an arse :P

identityexiled
December 1st 2009


3 Comments


I don't really see what the big deal is about some people writing reviews in exchange for getting the album early. Giving away what's effectively a sample to a customer is standard practice in almost all retail commerce, because sellers know that there is no such thing as "negative promotion." Of course, the vendor hopes the customer's opinion will be favorable, but these guys aren't some huge corporate band buying off Rolling Stone writers to give a favourable opinion. They're independent, and a small business. Of course, fans of a band aren't going to necessarily be the most objective, but they also are the most familiar with the material and would know immediately if it was something they didn't like. Furthermore, objectivity is no more present in those who look immediately to criticize than it is in those who hope to find something positive. I too look forward to reading the reviews of those who aren't biased in favour of the artist, but just because someone likes something doesn't immediately discount the validity of their opinion either. Do magazines that review cars prohibit a writer from reviewing a Corvette just because it's well known that that person has a preference for the brand? I don't think it's fair to jump all over those guys for writing positive reviews, but I guess I'll just have to get the album and decide for myself...

Zion
December 2nd 2009


812 Comments


Why is it that people who sign up just to comment once always have some longwinded rant about the ethics of music reviews? Either that or they pop in to offer a long winded refutation of a negative review.

identityexiled
December 2nd 2009


3 Comments


@ Zion: I wasn't aware that this was a popular pastime. I personally was not concerned about the content of the reviews, but rather that they were being treated by some members as illegitimate. I suppose the ethical direction of the site is decided by the people who operate it, and that's not really of any concern to me. If I had a problem with it, I wouldn't come here. Why is it that when someone tries to say something articulate on a blog someone has to comment on the length of a post? If it's too much for you to read, don't read it. And this is comment #2. So there. PHHHHHppppppttttph.

Prophet178
December 2nd 2009


6397 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

It's a problem because the bias and subjectivity raise twofold. A good album becomes the best album the person has ever heard (as seen here), and a bad album becomes a good one. Someone who goes into a review with no previous attachments or commitments to the album will be more likely to review it objectively with little bias.



Do magazines that review cars prohibit a writer from reviewing a Corvette just because it's well known that that person has a preference for the brand?




Maybe not, but would you be more trusting of a review from someone who was neutral on the car, or favorable to it?



I don't think it's fair to jump all over those guys for writing positive reviews




The thing that annoys me is that they come here and write their review that they were committed to write, and give it the highest score possible without really explaining why it deserves that score. Both of them just go on about how this band deserves more attention and how this is the second coming of prog rock.



I think it will be interesting to see a review from a more objective standpoint when the album is actually released.





Fugue
December 2nd 2009


7371 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

From a few listens I can safely say my review will not be 5/5.

Powerban
December 2nd 2009


2384 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Interested to hear it mutated.

Yazz_Flute
December 2nd 2009


19174 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I just heard Eidolon today and really loved it. 4.5 easily. This better or worse mutated?

Fugue
December 2nd 2009


7371 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Like I said I've only listened a few times but quality-wise I'd say its about the same (I gave Eidolon a 4). There's possibly a marginal improvement but Feathergun mainly just takes the band to a new sound. Its like Terras Fames was the blatant Tool rip-off album (albeit good) and this is finally the Rishloo sound, with Eidolon acting as a kind of middle ground between the two.

Powerban
December 2nd 2009


2384 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

He sounds like the Dredg guy at times on this album.

DDconjoined
December 2nd 2009


346 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

crtiticism accepted. thanks. Like i said, we were asked to write a review. But was not obligated in anyway to post it here, Lastfm or on fucking facebook for that matter. Could have been a soundoff for all they care.



@prophet I was probably buying music while you were in diapers. So I know the difference between a classic album and a poor one. What I should have done was invent some negatives to make it more believable - is that how it works???

Sach360
December 2nd 2009


47 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

People need to realize that an opinion is an opinion. You guys need to grow up, don't think the album deserves a 5? Then rate it as you deem worthy and write your own review.

identityexiled
December 2nd 2009


3 Comments


@ Prophet178: I think that to say bias and subjectivity raise twofold is a stretch. What you're talking about is what you perceive as the effect that getting the album early had on the reviews. Both of them say they paid for the album, just like anyone else. They just happened to get it early. To accurately gauge what, if any, influence this had on their feelings about the music, you'd have to be able to read their minds. So, I think this is a flawed point.

Regarding car (or really anything for that matter) magazines where a reviewer has a preference, my expectation would be that a competent editorial staff would provide an overall balanced review even if some writers involved in its creation were biased for or against. A neutral standpoint is not always the correct one, but when combined with other points of view, it should balance out. Which is why, hopefully, you and others will review the album as well, and when the dust settles it'll be easier to discern whether the album is well liked by most, none or somewhere in-between. I have to agree with Sach360: "Rate it as you deem worthy and write your own review."

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
December 5th 2009


38341 Comments


Some of the best songs of 09 are on here.

Prophet178
December 6th 2009


6397 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

Alright so I listened to it, and its great, but nothing more. I'd say a 4 max. Clearly the best thing about the band (still) is the singer. He sounds like the guy from Dredg if he tried to sound like Maynard instead of Cedric. His vocals are spectaulcar and are the clear highlight of the album, thats a good thing, but its also a bad thing. The production sends his vocals higher than it needs to be, overpowering the band most of the time. At times you just wish he would stop singing and let the band do their thing for a few minutes and let you rest, that happens sometimes, but its too far between.



Another problem is that it's too long (hey just like the last one). An hour of this guy singing his heart out may seem great, but towards the end of the album you really want to hear him shut up. I think if they added a couple instrumentals to break up the album a little it would not have been as bad. A lot of the songs end up sounding the same, but the ones that don't end up being memorable and become some of the band's best work.



The instrumentation is good as well, a lot of delay drenched guitars and toned down chugs, typical alt rock stuff here. Instead of techy Tool-like stuff its more A Perfect Circle or Dredg beefed up alt rock, so comparing them to a Tool ripoff band anymore isn't really applicable; they do come into their own and have a good sound. Drums are kind of weak, bass gets overpowered a lot, but the guitar shines through most of the time.



Overall though it's a good listen. People that like Dredg will love this, it's basically them turned up a few notches. I think once the staff review comes in there will be a small group of people that will have a massive boner for this and 5 it to hell, but I would say the album is a high 3.



Well theres my mini review because I don't feel like writing a full formal one.



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