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klap
Emeritus
January 10th 2009


12410 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I would argue that groups like Clipse and MCs like Ghostface are, commercially at least, more "underground" than mainstream; when I think mainstream rap, I think of Luda, 50, Young Jeezy, T.I., etc. Maybe that's just me though

illmitch
January 10th 2009


5511 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

lol

st4ytrue
January 10th 2009


279 Comments


Semi-mainstream doesn't exist, mainstream and underground is determined by the label, not how popular that particular artist is. Independent labels can't afford the same kind of production that mainstream producers charge several thousands of dollars for. So independent MC's not only are accustomed to hanging around lyrically inclined counterparts, but they have a certain duty to fulfill over a beat that can't be as catchy or sugar-coated as a generic mainstream beat could. As for comparing the lyrical prowess in the independent and radio scenes its actually pretty obvious that independent MC's achieve far more lyrically than rappers who are much more club-friendly because those club-oriented MC's simply don't put forth the same type of effort because they aren't trying to tell a story.

st4ytrue
January 10th 2009


279 Comments


Being an independent MC is like having a boss that will only fire you if your work is absolutely completely horrific.

kingsoby1
Emeritus
January 10th 2009


4970 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

what? underground producers are easily as good as mainstream, and mainstream mcs are easily as good as underground.

what are you even trying to say? mainstream hiphop doesn't suck outright; there's plenty of awesome stuff. there's also plenty of terrible underground stuff. i dont think you know what you're talking about.

st4ytrue
January 10th 2009


279 Comments


Nobody said underground producers aren't as good as mainstream producers, but if you know anything about producing you know that most underground producers aren't walking into Guitar Center and buying out the entire turntable room. There is a hugely noticeable difference in mainstream production and underground production, and that difference is the size of their bank accounts. And nobody said that mainstream outright sucked either, I know there's plenty of awesome stuff, I don't think you know what your reading.

kingsoby1
Emeritus
January 10th 2009


4970 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

crap, i fell for a francesfarmer alt again. dammit.

illmitch
January 10th 2009


5511 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

lol

st4ytrue
January 10th 2009


279 Comments


Yeah you can call it that, I like to call it go grab some Hooked on Phonics and get crackin' Soby.This Message Edited On 01.10.09

st4ytrue
January 10th 2009


279 Comments


Usher is not an MC, Usher is a pop star.

illmitch
January 10th 2009


5511 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

lol

kingsoby1
Emeritus
January 10th 2009


4970 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

good one bro hahaha



edit: @ francesThis Message Edited On 01.10.09

st4ytrue
January 10th 2009


279 Comments


Once again, your either an alt-account or you really need to re-take 'creative' writing.

Mitch Don isn't a redeeming figure in production in the first place, mainstream or independent; he and every other producer will cater to the artist they are doing work for, he'd have a different outlook on the song if it were Game or Busta Rhymes, ya know...

kingsoby1
Emeritus
January 10th 2009


4970 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

ya man can u teach me how to right plz

illmitch
January 10th 2009


5511 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

lol

st4ytrue
January 10th 2009


279 Comments


MF Doom and Lib do have access to pretty nice equipment, but when they produce its for a totally different style of rap than Swizz or Don would produce for. They are more complex and intricate, simple as that. Also underground rappers as a whole simply have to do more work than mainstream rappers who have the entire song handed to them on a silver platter, and can even hire ghost-writers if they deem it necessary.

HalfManHalfAmazing
September 23rd 2010


2795 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Underground hip hop is better than mainstream hip hop in any aspect imaginable (aside from sales)

HalfManHalfAmazing
December 1st 2014


2795 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

imma pretend i never made that comment



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