Album Rating: 3.5

yeah that's pretty fucking retarded

Album Rating: 3.5

where did they say that btw

GREAT review, a really fun read and a little historical perspective (which is necessary since this band is hyped to hell). I didn't really enjoy their other two albums, all the sound mashing just seems to make their stuff sound foggy and indistinct. But if this has better production and is more funky, I just may check it out.
Again, kudos for the very engrossing review

Album Rating: 2.5

I mean planewreq you can just be sarcastic or you could actually fashion some kind of real response. I'm curious what the 4.5ers think about the lyrics. The review didn't really address them all that much.

Album Rating: 4.5

The lyrics are sometimes meaningless but they sound good and arent distracting. There's a few memorable lines (hipster shit or not) and it's fine. They're not a lyrical band. They've always relied n vocal melodies and/or distortion and/or not lyrics. This Message Edited On 09.25.08

Album Rating: 4.0

The lyrics don't bug me very much, and the ones that stick out to me make me dig it more. For example, the first line of "Red Dress," which is like "Hey Jackson: Fuck your war!" or something. The music's just really solid stuff. This Message Edited On 09.25.08

Album Rating: 4.5

By meaningless I don't mean in overall idea, concept or intention, I just mean they're sometimes overly goofy and there are a bunch of lines that are really just in there to either rhyme, stand out or be lol.

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I see no problems with the lyrics that it's worthy of a huge deduction from the rating. I think in order for that to occur, they need to be lyrics that are on par with 'cut my wrists and black my eyes' or anything Anti-Flag says

Album Rating: 4.5

These guys are just really self-aware. When I saw them, Abimpbe (okay, that's not how you spell it but I'm not looking it up) was making jokes about how he wanted this album to have a 20 minute spoken word track. They constantly pole fun at their "hipster" fans and they're basically always making light of everything. So that's why you've got the contrast in bleak, more serious lyrics paired up with random goofy non-sequiturs and the like.

Album Rating: 4.5

constantly pole fun, whoooops

Album Rating: 2.5

The "deductions"as IsItLuck put it are actually for the music not the lyrics. I think about half of the songs are amazing and half of them just blow. So maybe it's a 3/5 and then the lyrics kill the album off for me. It's funny because I think the best songs are the ones with the most soul or bravado in the vocal performance, but the lyrics are so poorly written and genre-bound that that undercuts what all the cool vocals they have.

Album Rating: 4.5

I should have known DFelon wouldn't allow himself to like this.

Album Rating: 2.5

Oh shut up man. Don't pull this prejudice stuff on me. If it makes you feel better I liked Cookie Mountain a lot more.

Album Rating: 4.5

It just seems like making a huge deal about the lyrics is severely pulling threads. And you like Cookie Monster, so what, is that not "hipster" or something?

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

You should probably just stick to listening to stuff that you review favorably considering that's 95% of your top albums this year anywayThis Message Edited On 09.25.08

Album Rating: 2.5

Cocaine, I hardly judge an album on the lyrics. I think you're blowing how much that effects how much I like an album out proportion. TVotR are egregious offenders in the hipster/bad lyrics department, but write some pretty good songs. I thought Cookie Mountain was a better album overall, excluding lyrics. Hip, yes, but pretty good also. This is just completely hit or miss. "Red Dress," "Dancing Choose," and even "Golden Age" are just not good songs. The use of horns and bongos are so superfluous and trite. I think TVotR suffers when they're upbeat. Their best songs are the ones that don't superficially try to be fun with disco beat hi hat work and jangly instrumentation. The best ones are the ones that don't try so hard to be upbeat and and hip. The more delicate and soulful the vocals, the better. When they get brash and arrogant, everything just suffers.

Album Rating: 2.5

[quote=IsItLuck?]You should probably just stick to listening to stuff that you review favorably considering that's 95% of your top albums this year anyway[/quote]



Shouldn't the stuff I review favorably make up 100% of my top albums for the year?

Album Rating: 4.5

I actually think TVotR are better with a little more energy in their songs. I dont necessarily mean "dancier" stuff, just more life. That's what hurt Cookie Mountain. It can be something as simple as the ridiculously harmonies on Desperate.., or the bouncier stuff on here.

still generic.

really enjoy this album, but it makes me want to get out their old stuff alot too. which i still need a bit more of in the way of cookie mountain and the other album, not ep.