Pennywise Reason to Believe
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Electric City
March 27th 2008


15756 Comments


I'm always skeptical of the "return to the top of their game" records, because that's usually NEVER true. I read a fair share of reviews that said that about Rather Ripped, and that didn't work out so hot.

Eliminator
March 27th 2008


2067 Comments


whoever said that is an idiot because sonic youth are almost always at the top of their game WTF

NortherlyNanook
March 27th 2008


1286 Comments


Huh. I thought that this wasn't going to be very good, but I might take some time to hear a few songs from it.

Intransit
March 27th 2008


2797 Comments


Pennywise has put out Straight Ahead, Land of the Free, From the Ashes, and The Fuse, not including the new album since I've heard it. 0 quality albums. Bad Religion has 3/5 quality albums in the past ten years. I was kind of on the verge of maybe taking your word until you came out swinging trying to say that PENNYWISE at any point was better than probably the most inconsistent era of Bad Religion. Sorry, but the math, and common sense is against you.

Eliminator
March 27th 2008


2067 Comments


Nokturnal Mortum rule.

BallsToTheWall
March 27th 2008


52578 Comments


Eliminator rules. Good review Willie, I liked Land Of The Free so i'll check this out.

Willie
Moderator
March 28th 2008


20676 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Pennywise has put out Straight Ahead, Land of the Free, From the Ashes, and The Fuse, not including the new album since I've heard it. 0 quality albums. Bad Religion has 3/5 quality albums in the past ten years. I was kind of on the verge of maybe taking your word until you came out swinging trying to say that PENNYWISE at any point was better than probably the most inconsistent era of Bad Religion. Sorry, but the math, and common sense is against you.
Bad Religion during the same time has put out No Substance, New America, The Process..., Empire..., and New Maps... Every one of the Pennywise albums you named are better then No Substance and at least as good as New America. If you add the new Pennywise album so that they're at 5 and 5 then the two bands are equal as far as your math is concerned (if you didn't just arbitrarily dismiss Pennywise's albums, that is)....
trying to say that PENNYWISE at any point was better than probably the most inconsistent era of Bad Religion.
I really like both bands, but everything Pennywise has released is better then Bad Religion's 95 to 2000 era material.

descendents1
March 28th 2008


702 Comments


The whole Pennywise vs. 5-years of BR is a horrible argument on both sides.

AtavanHalen
March 28th 2008


17919 Comments


Getting this as soon as I get home. Hopefully I didn't delete my download link.

Masochist
March 28th 2008


9188 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

The whole Pennywise vs. 5-years of BR is a horrible argument on both sides.



Agreed.



I'm very well acquainted with Pennywise, but this is my first full album by them. "One Reason" was a bit of a surprise...a good one, though.This Message Edited On 03.27.08

Willie
Moderator
March 28th 2008


20676 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

The whole Pennywise vs. 5-years of BR is a horrible argument on both sides.
Yeah, I know... it wasn't my intention to start any kind of comparison war with my initial comment... the only thing I meant by it was that it was ok that Pennywise was attempting to be "Bad Religion Jr." by copying their Suffer-era music over and over since Bad Religion wasn't copying that era anymore anyway...
This is just as average as everything they've done since their s/t.
Well, that's the curse/greatness of Pennywise... if you don't like them then nothing they've released will ever really change your mind... but if you do like them then you always know what to expect....

Aficionado
March 28th 2008


1027 Comments


it's ironic that descendents is the one who's trying to end this argument when essentially he's the one who suggested that Pennywise is Bad Religion Jr. and started this argument in the first place.

descendents1
March 28th 2008


702 Comments


this argument started a long time ago and it's a universal truth that pennywise is BR Jr.

Willie
Moderator
March 28th 2008


20676 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

and I'm willing to bet the new No Use for a Name album is better than this.
I heard it for the first time today, and so far it isn't better... but it is better then their last album.
this argument started a long time ago and it's a universal truth that pennywise is BR Jr.
I know you were responding to someone else, but again, what is the problem with trying to cover BR's old style when they're not really into it anymore.

descendents1
March 28th 2008


702 Comments


i'm being facetious
the lyrics on this really suck
i've heard 2 good songs out of 7 so far, and like 2 awful ones, the rest are alright
i used to love this band and they really have no direction because they know nothing but bropunk or whatever they're playing, and it's the same thing every time
I think the best song is We'll Never Know, and it's probably because it's the most Bad Religion sounding. I mean, it sounds like a Bad Religion B-side.

Alex101
March 28th 2008


129 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

This new record sounds really great, I just downloaded it for free. I think this is their best one since Land of the Free?.

skatemullen14
March 29th 2008


151 Comments


I liked the sounds of One Reason from your review, so I went and listened to it on myspace. For the first little while I thought I was listening to Cigaro by SOAD.

npunk128
March 29th 2008


13 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Wow, I liked it quite a bit when I listened to it. I think it's more technical than straight-foward (like their last albums) but gets a little repetitive through out the entire listen. The bonus track at the end cept me listening (if that makes sense). A few songs are quite mediocre though. It's really not horribly similar to BR, it feels as if that's who their main influence was, but they try to break away...sorry for a review, couldn't help it. :P

RandyfromPennywise
March 29th 2008


752 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I paid money for this CD. Felt like I owed it to the band. Haven't been able to listen to it yet though.



Sean what's up, yeah haven't been able to come on here very often these days, but I would like to write a review for this and the new Millencolin one. It just kind of annoys me that unless you write a review for an album on the day a review for it is allowed to be posted on here, someone else beats you to it.



Anyway, peace.



EDIT: Yeah, about the review... You write well. I guess you're kind of new here because I can't remember seeing you, but you've got 70 reviews or something and you write well, good stuff. I couldn't disagree with you more when you say that Unknown Road and About Time were the best PW albums. The '97-'00 period was their best, for my two Euro cents. This Message Edited On 03.29.08

Willie
Moderator
March 29th 2008


20676 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I think it's more technical than straight-foward (like their last albums) but

gets a little repetitive through out the entire listen.
I agree, and if you read the news item someone posted they even said that they weren't excited about being on Epitaph anymore, so it kind of validates the feeling I was getting from this album.
It just kind of annoys me that unless you write a review for an album on the day a review for it is allowed to be posted on here, someone else beats you to it.
Agreed, I only started doing that because of the exact reason you posted, but if it makes any difference I only do that if I've had the album for a while and didn't just get it on the day of its release.
You write well. I guess you're kind of new here because I can't remember seeing you, but you've got 70 reviews or something and you write well, good stuff. I couldn't disagree with you more when you say that Unknown Road and About Time were the best PW albums. The '97-'00 period was their best, for my two Euro cents.
New? "New" is kind of a relative term, there are people here much newer and people here that have been around years longer... I'd still say I'm

fairly new here though. That's interesting that you mention those years, because they encompass my two least favorite PW albums, so our opinions definitely differ... looking forward to your review of this... do you plan on doing the new No Use album?This Message Edited On 03.29.08



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