Album Rating: 3.0

I still think Nightwish has a sound that no one else does, but they are certainly starting to shift towards what the rest of the scene sounds like.

Album Rating: 4.0

The rest of the scene uses a Full Orchestra??? They incorporate Irish and gospel styles into their songs?? They start off an album with a 14 minute epic monster??



I think people say that Nightwish is failing because we expect so much from them and they flat out destroy the competition. When they try something new that we haven't heard before, we are very skeptical...That is just my view on it though.

I just listened to Poet anbd the Pendulum on youtube, and was blown away. Fantastic, i've never heard anything else by Nightwish. I think i'll get this when it comes out in the U.S.

Album Rating: 3.0

No, Poet, I think you're just letting your fanboyism get the best of you. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the biggest Nightwish fanboys ever, but I can find fault with this album. Tuomas's compositions always had a bit of originality to them, even when they started shifting towards symphonic metal, and it kept them from falling into that "film scoring" sound that infects so many bands. On the other hand, this album falls into that rut; not completely, but enough to ruin it.



And the gospel style should NOT have been in there at all.

Album Rating: 4.0

I am not saying this album is perfect...not at all. Songs like Cadence of her Last Breath, Eva, and 7 Days to the Wolves are just blah to me.



Three songs make this whole album worthwhile to me; The Poet and the Pendulum, Last of the Wilds, and The Islander. I have never heard anything like them before, and I would pay money just to have those three songs. But this is coming from someone whose first Nightwish album was Once (I got it a month before Tarja got fired) and I went backwards, instead of forwards, so the orchestral parts were always my favorite. That is why I lean more towards the new albums because I am an overall fan of orchestral work in metal, so the "film" score part of it makes it more outstanding for me.



I think Nightwish wanted to show that they could make a quality album without Tarja, and I guess they have done that since it's already gone like Double Platinum in Finland already.



I guess it's just a clash of opinions in here on how good this album is.

Album Rating: 3.5

Double Platinum in Finland already.

Album Rating: 3.0

Platinum in Finland is like 30,000 copies though. It's not like the US...



Meh, I was just disappointed. I expected more.

Album Rating: 4.0

Ok, now I am anxious to find out what you really did expect Shattered Future??



Because I am just baffled right now, and it's a strange weird feeling that I can't describe, lol.

Album Rating: 3.0

Perhaps I expected too much. I don't know if I like Tarjaless Nightwish.

Tarja had an annoying voice anyways.

Album Rating: 3.5

Finland only has a population of a couple million people though.

I am not saying this album is perfect...not at all.

Album Rating: 3.5

Having flaws makes it not perfect, hmm?

Perfect: "being complete of its kind and without defect or blemish"

But yeah, that can't really be applied to albums cos perfection is pretty hard to come upon and in music, is largely based on opinion.

A 4.5, to me at least, is an album that doesn't get tiring, is not repetetive, and shows a high level of both lyricism and musicianship.

A 5 is those same qualities but with some other contributing factor that makes it the masterpiece I've rated it to be.

So yeah.

Saying he doesn't rate this anywhere near perfect, only three songs really stand out to him, yet he's given it a 4.5, is a bit silly in my honest and humble opinion.

Album Rating: 3.0

I expected music that doesn't sound like a Within Temptation clone a good portion of the time. I expected an expanded version of Once. Instead, I got this, which has occasional moments of greatness but is eclipsed by its mediocrity.

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

How you can say NW sounds like a WT clone is beyond me.

Album Rating: 4.0

"So yeah.







Saying he doesn't rate this anywhere near perfect, only three songs really stand out to him, yet he's given it a 4.5, is a bit silly in my honest and humble opinion."





Just because I said that those three songs make the whole album worthwhile, doesn't mean that those are the ONLY THREE SONGS that I like. Oh, and you wouldn't know because you didn't read my review of the album did you? No, you said it would be a waste of your time.

FYI - To quote easier, just type [quote] and then [/quote ] but with no space.

You're right. I didn't read your review. Maybe I took what you said wrongly. From what I read in your comment, it sounded like you based your rating off the three songs.

From an objective perspective, let's look at a scenario. There are three reviews. Two are good and one is just ok. Someone who doesn't know anything about the album will want to know what the album is all about, as this is a review site afterall. Who's review do I choose to read? Well, I'll choose one good and one bad one for each perspective's sake. Now then, when looking for a non-biased approach, who do I choose...the one written by someone named after a song in the album, or the other?

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If only 3 songs make an album worthwhile, then the album is nowhere near an essential rating. Every song has to uniquely comprise the pwnage of an album.

And to PoetandthePendulum, you're obviously biased, and your name will always remind us of that.This Message Edited On 10.01.07