the single bothers me.

Album Rating: 3.0

Yup, because you can't get it out of your head.

Aside from The Great Escape this cd is entirely forgettable

Just saying, Chiodos isn't very pop-punk, especially compared to these guys. I've heard them described posthardcore, and the band aspect of Chiodos is actually very capable.

I wasn't even aware that pop-punk had screaming in it.

Craig Owens is kind of a girl though.

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and at least the nu-metal movement came up with a classic (Mudvayne's L.D. 50), I have yet to find a classic from the pop punk movement.

Album Rating: 1.5

Eugh, this thread pretty much reminds me why I never liked tribes to begin with.