Album Rating: 3.0

very well done review ... this one was needed. You hit the nail on the head with the influences part. The one other thing that bothered me was that they seemed to do odd time signatures just for the sake of it .. as a result at a lot of places the songs don't seem to flow...

What do the vocal lines in Constant Motion mock by Metallica? I heard it and thought old-school Anthrax and figure ppl say Metallica b/c it's just the typical thrash metal band to try bashing a band w/.

Album Rating: 3.0

Nice review, who the fuck negged it though? I disagree with the rating though, I think it's good, just not their best effort to date.

Album Rating: 3.5

uh no I've heard the album like 15 times already and the band just rips off bigtime



it wasn't inspiration. the solo in repentance is a straight-up Opeth solo. all the soft background shit is exactly like porcupine tree. it's ripping off.

Album Rating: 5.0

I think those who are quoted the whole "Stolen style" idea have missed the fundamental idea that new ideas in music are simply distorted and adapted ideas of the influences on that musician...If any one cares to deny this please let him speak...

Don't agree with the review. You spent most of it talking about influences from other bands, however I fail to see why is it so bad to be influenced by some good pieces of music. You can't expect them to be 100% original after 20 years of making music.

Album Rating: 3.5

The point is that when I want to hear music I don't want to hear something I can already get on another cd.



If I wanted to listen to Evanescence-style stuff, I'd listen to Evanescence.



Dream Theater are an original force, they nearly founded a fucking genre of music. They have the ability to write songs and do something new. This is just recycling what they did over the last two albums and there's nothing new or original on here. Taking musical ideas from other is fine, but Dream Theater is a) blatantly plagiarising and b) doing the same thing as they did on their last three albums. That's not being influenced, that's ripping off, and that is my complaint. if you don't get that, don't read the damn review.

how did dream theater found a whole genre of music?

Album Rating: 3.5

progressive metal, they didn't really found it as much as popularise it though. but they're quickly becoming (to some already are) a self-parodic act in the style and are easily being eclipsed by bands like Opeth these days

well, popularise it yes.......

Album Rating: 3.0

Does anyone else think Constant Motion sounds like a track that could have been on Metallica's Black Album?

I still think this deserves a higher grade. Even if they "ripped off" some songs, the instrumental and vocal parts are, like you said, very good/excellent. I think that this is far than an average metal band has to offer,and that deserves atleast a 3/3.5. However, you have a right to your opinion and I find it aimless to keep arguing over this. Someone will like it, someone won't, like always. This Message Edited On 06.09.07

Album Rating: 3.0

I thought you have to be copying specific patterns to be ripping off...

Porcupine Tree "ripped off" Pink Floyd and wore their influences quite well many times, too. Porcupine Tree had a riff in Arriving Somewhere that "ripped off" Opeth but that doesn't get criticism b/c ppl dig it. Opeth, Porcupine Tree, and Dream Theater ARE all contemporaries, but started very far away from each other at the roots. If copying a mood but playing different notes and rhythms is ripping off, then Blackwater Park and Fear of a Blank Planet are pure shit. But you dig it.

The thing DT did here is take influence from a wide range of bands, that's really why you may get the impression they're ripping off; it doesn't meld as well as it may do so w/ bands like PT and Opeth who had been influencing each other for years, so it stands out.

"I think those who are quoted the whole "Stolen style" idea have missed the fundamental idea that new ideas in music are simply distorted and adapted ideas of the influences on that musician...If any one cares to deny this please let him speak..."

The first time I heard Forsaken, I thought it sounded a lot more like the title track off of Symphony X's new, yet-to-be released album... but the Symphony X track sounds nothing like Evanescence. See our point? You can put the same songs set to seperate bands and think it's gold. Besides, there's still too much DT in these songs for them to be set to other bands. A riff or two and vocal style of CM may fit into Metallica's Black Album but everything else would be way out of place and not... primitive enough. -.-

For the record, I'm debating, not arguing; No anger, no insults. And I'm not offended by fanboy statements b/c I know I'm not. I'm not holding DT on a pedestal at all, I'm taking it for what it is by itself.



Sorry for the ridiculously long post noone's probably gonna read. :

Album Rating: 3.5

I thought it was very progressive, very new, my rating right now is 3.5, but I bet it goes up once I give it more spins

Album Rating: 3.0

I dont know what to expect when I get this, judging by all these opinions. I say, in general, its fine for a band to go so far as to even copy the style or sound of another band as an influence - I think it goes overboard when they start taking riffs and vocal melodies. But I wont make legitimate arguments until I give this a few listens.

Album Rating: 1.5

yeah the album seems sort of boring. this is dissapointing since ive enjoyed something in every one of their albums. oh well. tool and dt sort of layed an egg with their latest. well at least nin and rush put out a good album.

I listened to some of this last night and it was pretty boring. It seemed like it was very lack luster. It might have been the song or two that I heard but I doubt it.

Album Rating: 3.5

sorry for having an opinion guys

Sebby muffin guy, the reason why Arriving somewhere by Porc Tree sounds like Opeth is more then likely because Mikael from Opeth played on that track. Therefore, of course there will be a distant or even close sound to Opeth. But the problem is if Dream Theater played something like Opeth or Porc Tree then they will be clasified as a rip-off as they have no direct reason that they should sound like Opeth.

Album Rating: 3.5

plus why would DT want to sound like Opeth? if I wanted to hear Opeth I'd play an Opeth cd.