Manowar Gods Of War
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Tyler
Emeritus
March 11th 2007


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

You can't seriously tell me that MANOWAR is implying any sort of complex leitmotivs, you just can't.



The fact is I reviewed this album in the context I saw fitting. I see it as completely disappointing, and the comparisons to the EP were necessary. Why pay the extra cash for a full-length when you get barely anything more than you'd get with the EP? You get a bunch of completely useless interludes and another CD in your collection, and for some (ie: You), that's enough.



But some people like to think their purchases through.. I respect your opinion because you're clearly passionate about the band, and in some respects so am I, but I listened to this enough to form an opinion on it. I sat on it, and even still I was bored and struggled to make it the entire way through.



Keep forcing your opinion on others and I guarantee you'll have a miserable time here.



Nobody in his right mind would say that hearing the first notes of "The Ascension" kills the mood of anything, in fact it's the opposite, it's sets the mood wonderfully.




See?



Drop the elitist attitude, buddy.



The fact is when I listen to Manowar, I want Manowar. I want balls to the walls metal, I want powerful vocals and their trademark lyrics. With this album I got a completely half-assed concept and some lame Wagner philandering, and sure there are some decent tracks to be found, but as I said, why would I spend the extra money if I don't have to?



The EP is just like a thriller for a movie. Would you go "hey, that was on the thriller, nothing new here".




I assume you mean trailer. Well, if I went to see a movie and the only decent parts to be found were the ones used in the trailer, I most definitely would say that. They're supposed to excite you, like you said, not give away the best parts.

This Message Edited On 03.11.07

Castamir
March 13th 2007


9 Comments


Ok for the trailer (thanks, French speaker here) and for the attitude, I expected that.

What I have to say is that a good art critic doesn't "want" from the artist, but is supposed to be open-minded from the start.

Gods of War is a magnificent album. The fact that it's not what YOU expect from the band is completely irrelevant. Talk about the music, not about your expectations.

And BTW no-one is pretending to do Wagner here, come on. And I didn't say anything about the leitmotiv being "complex".

And "half-assed concept"? Wow.

What was that? "Drop the elitist attitude, buddy." was that it?

Come on. I hope people will listen to the album DESPITE the negativity.This Message Edited On 03.12.07

Tyler
Emeritus
March 13th 2007


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I want people to listen to the album, and I'm entitled to my opinion as you are yours. My point is you attacked my review simply because I didn't agree with your opinion, and placed a layer of superiority in your comment.



The fact is there's a reason this has yet to receive a solid review. There really is. This just doesn't feel like Manowar.

trustxdialect
March 13th 2007


1502 Comments


I assume "3" still means good. Stuff can be good and disappointing. Stuff can be great or excellent, like a 4 out of 5 and still be disappointing. Reviews are all about personal opinions, and expectations and hype can ultimately waver how you feel on an album. It's what happened to Angels and Airwaves, Green Day, TV on the Radio, and (insert some metal band I don't know the name of here that happened to disappoint cause of hype). You are being condescending to a review. If he agreed with you but talked about how the hype led him to that decision you wouldn't disagree with him. It's all about personal taste.

Tyler
Emeritus
March 13th 2007


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

And it's just so hard because honestly, I've been waiting to hear this for so long. 3 was me being extremely generous, because while the album kind of sucks, I want people to give the band a chance.

trustxdialect
March 13th 2007


1502 Comments


And that's exactly what Castamir was saying (sans his love for the album). He was bitching at you for no reason other than the fact that you don't like the album and he does. S'up at awesome fanboys.This Message Edited On 03.13.07

Tyler
Emeritus
March 13th 2007


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Yeah. It's okay, I can take it.

Castamir
March 13th 2007


9 Comments


I will not pretend to be objective. That’s for sure.

But still, there’s a thing I don’t get. How can you separate the metal side of Manowar from their melodic side? Manowar have always been almost at their best when they do melodic stuff. Right from the bridge of Battle Hymn you know their good at slow music.

Bridge of Death (Hail to England, 1984)
Heart of Steel (Kings of Metal, 1988)
The Crown and the King (Kings of Metal, 1988)
Courage (Louder Than Hell, 1996)
Sword in the Wind (Warriors of the World, 2002)

I think you should go to the record store and get yourself some Manowar, man. I think you might actually like the band. They’re quite good at slow melodic almost religious rock ballads, you’ll see.


Tyler
Emeritus
March 13th 2007


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I think you're deserving of this next comment: You're a complete idiot.



There's a difference between slower songs and epicly boring grandiose pieces of shit. Maybe you should get your tongue out of Joey DeMaio's ass and figure it out.



I feel like I'm talking to a fucking brick wall, seriously. Are you too fucking dense to realize that I'm a pretty big Manowar fan, and that's why this travesty is such a disappointment? It has little to do with tempo and more to do with pacing.



More than half of this album is fucking interludes. Fucking hell.

trustxdialect
March 13th 2007


1502 Comments


Stop; hammertime!

WHOAWHOA


No, but seriously. Cocaine gives the best rants. Ace job, almost better than your review.

Tyler
Emeritus
March 13th 2007


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I just can't help getting a little bit aggressive when anything I say is completely ignored. The guy completely attacked my integrity and my listening skills, he totally invalidated my review because I'm not a rampant fanboy, and he completely ignored anything I said and used any argument I made to twist them into some contradictory blurb about how I should try listening to more of their albums, in spite of the fact that I have several.



BLARHGH. This, and this alone, is why I'm taking a break from reviewing.

trustxdialect
March 13th 2007


1502 Comments


Castamir, you bastard. This Message Edited On 03.13.07

Castamir
March 14th 2007


9 Comments


Job done.

Sepstrup
March 14th 2007


1567 Comments


There's no reason to try to discredit the reviewer just because you disagree with his opinion. Instead of being a dick about it and asking him how many times he's heard the album, be constructive and write a review wherin you express your opinion. I'm sure Cocaine, and everyone else, wants to hear it, but not when you present it like this.

Castamir
March 15th 2007


9 Comments


The way I choose to express myself is none of your business.

My negative attitude was a reaction to the negative attitude Tyler had toward the new Manowar album.

Why should someone have the right to diss a band and I should not have the right to diss the disser? If Tyler is not willing to be treated has he treats others (the band), then he should indeed shy away from music review.

Tyler
Emeritus
March 15th 2007


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I was insulting the shitty album, not the band. You're attacking me because you're too fucking stupid to come up with real arguments.

Castamir
March 16th 2007


9 Comments


Yeah, and there are also condescending reviews.

Tyler
Emeritus
March 16th 2007


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

You know, negative and condescending aren't synonyms.

Castamir
March 16th 2007


9 Comments


Yes, but they often go hand in hand.

lau2000
May 21st 2007


5 Comments


hey, good review by the way, even if i don't agree with your opinion; but try to be a litle bit more positive next time
and one more thing do you know anything about the concert that's sopoused to be in romania somewhere in august, i heard some rumors that it's not going to take pleace?
This Message Edited On 05.21.07



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