Alice in Chains Jar Of Flies
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ArsMoriendi
April 27th 2014


42337 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

There's a huge difference between disagreeing with someone and calling their opinion "consistently bullshit." Let's not forget that.

deathschool
April 27th 2014


29479 Comments


Whatever. I dig hyperbole. Don't take it personal.

zakalwe
April 27th 2014


41962 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Of course it is but there's art and then there's art and no matter who you are you know that some of it is unrivalled, undisputed brilliance and other stuff is complete bollocks.



mandan
April 27th 2014


13992 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

I don't always have the most popular opinions myself, but that doesn't stop me from getting along with other users and stuff. One has to have a thick skin in this site.

deathschool
April 27th 2014


29479 Comments


Yeah, I mean this IS the internet, Ars. I'm not even one of the more asshole users, man. I got ya back.

ArsMoriendi
April 27th 2014


42337 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"Of course it is but there's art and then there's art and no matter who you are you know that some of it is unrivalled, undisputed brilliance and other stuff is complete bollocks."



No. Each opinion varies from person to person.



It's kind of like how I prefer Van Gogh's Bedroom in Arles and Olive Garden to Starry Night. But everyone is too busy listening to other people obsess over Starry Night to even figure out themselves which Van Gogh Painting is their actual favorite.



In this same way, I have way more favorites from Alice in Chain's s/t and Jar of Flies, than I do from Dirt. I still think Dirt is a solid record, but I have not once considered it to be my favorite and I'm sick of being told that I'm objectively wrong because of it when art is always subjective.



@death: I know... I just need to get this out there^

deathschool
April 27th 2014


29479 Comments


Fight the good fight, Ars. But know that'll mean getting your ass kicked sometimes.

NordicMindset
April 27th 2014


25137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I'll kick your ass in alright

NordicMindset
April 27th 2014


25137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

My least favorites from Dirt have to be Sickman

mandan
April 27th 2014


13992 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

What school said. I've been on this site for maybe 2 years, and I'm used to disagreements. One has to learn to not give a shit, not just in here, but in life in general. Just look at that last list I made. It took courage for me to come out in front of Sput and admit I had a soft spot for those albums.

WashboardSuds
April 27th 2014


5101 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

dirt is objectively my favorite

NordicMindset
April 27th 2014


25137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

yeah well I was greenlinkinmuse for a year and a half so

ArsMoriendi
April 27th 2014


42337 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

ob·jec·tive



(of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.



sub·jec·tive



(of a person or their judgment) based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.



@WashboardSuds: where you want to admit it or not, Dirt is subjectively your favorite.

WashboardSuds
April 27th 2014


5101 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

teasing u silly beef patty

SitarHero
April 27th 2014


14826 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"Art is subjective guys."



Woah. So you're saying that there's a legitimate argument supporting the statement that Justin Bieber or William Hung's music is every bit as "good" as Beethoven's Fifth?

ArsMoriendi
April 27th 2014


42337 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

@SitarHero: I REALLY hate to say this, but from an artist's standpoint:



yes.



Now, is this extremely hard to argue? Yes, but if you found an amazing lawyer, I bet he could make a pretty good case for it.



With that said, in my opinion Beethoven slaughters Justin Bieber a billion times over.

deathschool
April 27th 2014


29479 Comments


Sitar, from a taste standpoint, unfortunately yes. From one of effort and complexity, fuck no.

SitarHero
April 27th 2014


14826 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

But that's not the art being better (or worse). That's artistic APPRECIATION. Subjective opinion of a piece of art does not validate its artistic value.

SitarHero
April 27th 2014


14826 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Sorry guys, I'm a little high and jamming some Beethoven, so I might wax a little philosophical.

deathschool
April 27th 2014


29479 Comments


That's true. And it never will. At the end of the day, there may not be a true way to validate artistic value, but we try our damnedest.



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