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"i just wanted to remind everyone that the '?' in the artwork is not centered"

AGH WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO ME

Would you say to simply say RIP is to spit in the faces of those he abused? Because if so I don’t agree.

The problem with this very very very specific case of abuse, is that now that xxx has been murdered, it dilutes his negative connotation. By killing him, his bio changes from “the rapper who abused people” to “the rapper who abused people, and got murdered.” Those who he abused may find peace right now, but in a month, when no one even cares about what they went thru anymore cuz “the guy is dead, and you should feel sorry” it’s just not gonna be as peaceful as a solid conviction could have been.

I’m sorry, I’m just tired of feeling guilty for wishing peace on a twenty year old who’s music meant something to people I care about. And I’m not ab to stand for people saying ppl like me are “abuse sympathizers”

Who are we to do God’s work and fucking kill people

The only good take I’ve seen in this thread is “rest in peace, you piece of shit”

I think your second paragraph is spot-on, which is why I think your first is absolutely true. an uncritical wishing of peace in death paints over the abuse in life, demonstrating respect where none is or ought to be owed. that is, aside from a general condemnation of drive-by murders, which, like, absolutely, because pretty much nobody deserves to be gunned down like X was, but it's possible to express anguish at the nature of his death while simultaneously refusing to memorialize him. an unaccompanied RIP is a memorial, a RIP alongside an acknowledgment of his awfulness is better.

e: basically, "rest in peace you piece of shit"

There’s just too many people saying rip rn for me to hop to the conclusion that they all are abuse sympathizers, some people just want the best for everybody. The real people to be blamed are the ones who will eventually make him a martyr, not ur average joe saying rip

It’s just SUCH a touchy situation rn

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I really have no idea why people are in such a mood to have others feel bad for treating his death with celebratory derision. The nature of his death was not tragic at all. That would imply that he was a redeemable individual. I'm pretty sure most people his age didn't threaten to mutilate their significant other's genitals with grilling implements.

I don’t want anyone to feel badddddddd

my point is just kinda that no one should be made to feel bad at all rn. It’s a “relevant topic” so ppl form opinions/jump to conclusions. No one in the general public should be demonized, this is about xxx and xxx only.

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imma repost what I posted in the news thread since it seems to be relevant to the discussion here as well:



it's gonna be easy for people to be sanctimonious and say that anyone who isn't bothered by this dude getting offed is a monster because of all the hypotheticals like "what if he reformed" but like... none of that matters. none of that matters any more than any other hypothetical outcome to any other choice or situation and just like those it's not worth worrying about or dwelling and getting hung up on. the only thing that matters is what actually did happen, and the fact is that he never showed any kind of remorse or intent to reform before he died. he was a shitty person, he died a shitty person, and he should be remembered as a shitty person. that is his legacy.



tl;dr we'll never know if he could've stopped being a piece of shit but all that matters is that he hadn't when he died so he shouldn't be mourned.

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blessed those two vigilantes

I don't get it. Mourn if you feel bad, don't mourn if you don't. What is all this "should" or "shouldn't"?

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he raped a pregnant woman with a barbecue fork.

So don't mourn if you don't want to then.

There are two people to blame: xxx and the guy who shot him.

There are too many people with too many different opinions to think ANYTHING else until this blows over

She's not

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are we actually so desensitized as a society to think it's perfectly reasonable to mourn a dude who regularly beat, threatened, and at one point raped his pregnant girlfriend with a barbecue fork because they like his music or he was "too young to die"?

The only thing we can really do is make this fade in relevancy, which every single one of us is fucking failing at so

And he didn’t rape her, he threatened. That doesn’t make it better but stop saying that

Some people believe in an eye for an eye, some don't. Do you really have to complicate this so much?

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the concept of "eye for an eye" isn't even a part of this equation. no one's saying he deserved to die or got what was coming to him, just that what happened happened and the kind of person he was at the time it happened shouldn't be glossed over or ignored. are you even reading what I'm saying or are you just repeating your own talking points?

Your argument implicitly assumes an "eye for an eye" worldview. In a complete vacuum, this guy getting shot down is a tragedy. Only under the presupposition that he deserved it in some way is it not, and realistically the only way you could think he deserved it is because of his past actions.

So yes, it's completely part of the equation, at least in the argument you're trying to make. Mourning it isn't ignoring anything.