The Beach Boys Pet Sounds
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guitarded_chuck
November 20th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

i wish i was blissfully ignorant enough to believe in objective experience

guitarded_chuck
November 20th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

i mean this is probably the best of melodic psych pop but if i want psych pop i prefer something a little rawer like forever changes

zakalwe
November 20th 2018


42183 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

lol

Mongi123
November 20th 2018


22666 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Haha I’m actually never heard it. I was just messin. Still though, go on with your lives. If someone dislikes it, more power to them. If you love it, more power to them.

guitarded_chuck
November 20th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

lol indeed

zakalwe
November 20th 2018


42183 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

The lol was for the objective experience bit. Forever Changes is quality.

guitarded_chuck
November 20th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

i know what it was for



while there is an objective reality occurring all interpretations thereof are based on individualistic subjective experience



see: philosophy 101

zakalwe
November 20th 2018


42183 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I walked around the Tate

zakalwe
November 20th 2018


42183 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

It was shit

TheLongShot
November 20th 2018


868 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"I know it’s easy to argue for the power of subjectivity/respecting dissenting takes but this is one of like five albums, and I’m seriously saying it’s that small a number, where not liking it Boggles my goddamn mind to no end. This is a gorgeous and perfect album. Whatever tho"



Pretty much this.



I also want to say that the act of disliking music of any kind is inherently close-minded; because there is no such thing as "objectively good" or "objectively bad" music, each mind differs as far as what it's most receptive to, and disliking an album really comes down to nothing but your not being receptive to whatever the artist is producing. That's totally fine because literally everybody does it to some extent.



But actively disliking an album with the near-universal acclaim of something like Pet Sounds shouldn't be something that you embrace or shrug off with an "eh, it's not for me" attitude. If a lot of people find beauty in a piece of art, isn't it much more worthwhile to try and search for a connection to that beauty than to shrug it off and in the process ignore a pretty fucking big piece of musical history?



Personal anecdote: I didn't enjoy In the Aeroplane Over the Sea on first listen, but I told myself that I would give the record another chance down the line and see if I'd be more receptive to it then. Turns out I was, and while it's still "only" at a 3.5 for me right now, I think it has the chance to grow on me even further. Even stuff like Van Dyke Parks' Song Cycle (which I have a snarky-ass soundoff written for that I may delete soon) I want to revisit because I know people really like it and I want to be able to experience that enjoyment, too.



Sorry for the rant, admittedly I get passionate as hell about this album because I absolutely love it to death and it's sad for me to see others not enjoy it as much as I do. But even in a more general sense, I reaaaaally wish people (myself included, and I'm working on it) approached music with a more receptive mindset than they do.

guitarded_chuck
November 20th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

being open minded would be realizing that maybe people dont think this is jesus cumming in their ear for reasons other than simply being edgy or having not tried it



hopefully you can see how you are being completely ironic here but i have doubts

zakalwe
November 20th 2018


42183 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

If I hammered away at d on a piano for 40 minutes with varying degrees of vigour channelling my passions, torments, love and losses it wouldn’t be art and it sure as shit wouldn’t be music.

TheLongShot
November 20th 2018


868 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"being open minded would be realizing that maybe people dont think this is jesus cumming in their ear for reasons other than simply being edgy or having not tried it



hopefully you can see how you are being completely ironic here but i have doubts"



That's a hot take my dude

guitarded_chuck
November 20th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

no thinking that the only reason someone doesnt have the same opinion as you on a piece of art either because they want to project differing opinions for the sake of it or havent given it enough of a chance is the hottest of takes



my dude

TheLongShot
November 20th 2018


868 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Honestly though it ain't their opinion that I'm shitting on, it's the bullheadedness and taking pride in their dislike of the album with quips like "That awkward moment when Summer in Paradise is better..."

Mongi123
November 20th 2018


22666 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yea I don’t dislike things for the sake of “being edgy.” Lol that’s dumb shit.



Just talkin I’m general. Again, I’ve never heard this.

guitarded_chuck
November 20th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"taking pride in their dislike of the album with quips like "That awkward moment when Summer in Paradise is better...""



pleb is the most innocent dude on this site and youre being sensitive as fuck



anyway, im expecting to find nuance and general lack of pretension on a music review site, my mistake

TheLongShot
November 20th 2018


868 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Lol yes how naive of me for wanting to encourage quality musical discussions with fellow music fans

Well anyways whatever point I was trying to make probably hasn’t resonated with anybody judging by these reactions so forget it

Trifolium
November 20th 2018


41141 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

''If a lot of people find beauty in a piece of art, isn't it much more worthwhile to try and search for a connection to that beauty than to shrug it off and in the process ignore a pretty fucking big piece of musical history?''

You assume a lot here. You can't possibly like every single piece (however fucking big) of musical history ever created. You're bound to find something you dislike every now and again. And assuming that the lower rating crowd haven't tried hard enough is also kind of silly. Nothing is for everybody!

Trifolium
November 20th 2018


41141 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

But you know what, a nonexistent Sput-like for trying to have an actual discussion here!



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