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Anthracks
May 25th 2012


8408 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

it is implicit homophobia. perpetuating the use of a word whose only purpose (in america at least) is to denigrate homosexuals, regardless of what your intentions are by saying it, is homophobia. you are perpetuating the discrimination by allowing the word to continue to exist. if someone says the n word it's still racist, regardless of what your intentions are. furthermore, you are belittling the gay population by using the word as a means to bring down somebody else.

Anthracks
May 25th 2012


8408 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

if you consider educating someone being mad. sure?

sifFlammable
May 25th 2012


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by pushing for the elimination of discriminating words you imply the established nature of their
differences (which must be changed, in accordance to you) which only slows down the overall society's
progress towards accepting them as part of our own. in actual fact the argument you're putting forward
only serves to perpetuate their difference to people by implying to them that they're exclusive
folks who cannot be critiqued in a certain way

"in america at least" you guys are so political and fake that you dont care whether what you do
actually stops bad things happening or not, you just want to be morally righteous. when i see upper
class people chew on shitty slogans like "stop hunger" and "stop war" in america, when they're pretty
much the people politically responsible for both, it makes me sick

Anthracks
May 25th 2012


8408 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

by pushing for the elimination of discriminating words you imply the established nature of their

differences




there is a difference between a hateful word and one that describes a class of people. e.g. homosexual / gay vs. f*****t; african-____ / black vs. n****r



what are you even trying to argue against? you're arguing pro-bigotry for probably no reason or at least not one you believe in. though, your sweeping statement against "americans" is definitely consistent with that.

sifFlammable
May 25th 2012


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if you're going to refuse to understand what was a very clear argument, i'm not going to press the issue - its obvious that you have no idea what you're arguing against, and that you're just saying whatever they taught you in your school and you feel morally comfortable with

Anthracks
May 25th 2012


8408 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

whatever they taught me in school? I'm gay and I face discrimination every day. you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, and now you're going to simply claim that "i dont get your argument" because I completely ripped it to shreds. thanks for helping me waste a few minutes though

Storm In A Teacup
May 25th 2012


47094 Comments


"by pushing for the elimination of discriminating words you imply the established nature of their
differences (which must be changed, in accordance to you) which only slows down the overall society's
progress towards accepting them as part of our own. in actual fact the argument you're putting forward
only serves to perpetuate their difference to people by implying to them that they're exclusive
folks who cannot be critiqued in a certain way

"in america at least" you guys are so political and fake that you dont care whether what you do
actually stops bad things happening or not, you just want to be morally righteous. when i see upper
class people chew on shitty slogans like "stop hunger" and "stop war" in america, when they're pretty
much the people politically responsible for both, it makes me sick"




This comment times two all the way all day.

Anthracks
May 25th 2012


8408 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

@sif dude but your opinion is invalid because you are not a homosexual like anthracks he is the only one that understands fully




i never made any claim similar to this. i'm just showing that his statement that "I don't know what I'm arguing against" when I fight against discrimination every day is stupid and baseless

Anthracks
May 25th 2012


8408 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

do you honestly think anyone cares what side of the argument you are on, potato?

Anthracks
May 25th 2012


8408 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

people do actually care what my biceps look like i had a 9.9 back in the golden age of hotornot and my okcupid profile gets over 300 views per week, man. you dont even want to know how many messages i get on grindr every day. i bet all this makes u seethe with anger that im able to make these proclamations knowing full and well aware that im being jovial but at the same time each of these things is absolute fact. ooohhh it makes your blood boil to know that people do actually care doesnt it ooohhh especially you because you oooohhh reply to just about every message i make even when it doesnt concern you at all

Graveyard
May 25th 2012


6374 Comments


fuck totally missed out on this thread

Anthracks
May 25th 2012


8408 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

why do u keep replying to my messages ur like those guys that message me begging to have sex with me and i never respond ever but they still keep begging me for sex and i have to think that your proclivity to reply to all of my posts is for the same reason man just a guess

Anthracks
May 25th 2012


8408 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

from here on out i echo the sentiments of truckdrivinman he seems like a good guy that i can relate to

Anthracks
May 25th 2012


8408 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i dont even know who cone is. why does everyone think i care about people on here the only person i care about is ballstothewall



and my foxxxy now that we discovered we r perfect 4 each other

sifFlammable
May 25th 2012


2741 Comments


im not sure why you're trying reverse psychology, but i only claimed that you don't get my argument because you asked me what i'm arguing against

which was a joke at how incapable you were of reading the obvious, but here it is: giving a certain demographic exclusive waiver from hate words perpetuate differences

have you ever thought about this having an effect on the amount of discrimination you receive? stopping people saying homophobic stuff isnt going to stop homophobia, its just going to make you entitled enough to say you're different to everyone without the negative connotations of doing that. just be aware that what you're demanding from society with that kind of attitude is this: "im special than you guys! but treat me the same!" now you're free to do what you want, but realise that that's not going to stop /discrimination/ when you've /discriminated/ yourself as a demographic


sifFlammable
May 25th 2012


2741 Comments


i guess in the end your only argument was "I'm gay" but thanks for completely ripping my argument to shreds

Anthracks
May 25th 2012


8408 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i only claimed that you don't get my argument because you asked me what i'm arguing against




as in, why are you even bothering to justify bigotry and hatred?



stopping people saying homophobic stuff isnt going to stop homophobia,




You're an idiot. If people stop saying homophobic things, it is more than likely the cause of an (impossible) cessation of homophobia; which would mean homophobia is effectively dead (this will never happen nor did I claim it ever will.



I am NOT demanding special treatment, nor did I even demand that people stop saying these words; I said that these words are hateful and homophobic. You are making erroneous and baseless assumptions and putting words in my mouth. Homosexuals are a demographic, but that does not mean people need to treat them / us with hatefulness.

sifFlammable
May 25th 2012


2741 Comments


really at this point i'm repeating myself, ill do it one last time and stop

-i'm not justifying exclusive bigotry to gays, i'm arguing for equal access to bigotry to gays as with every other demographic out there

-like i said, if you stop people (and you 'not' demanding me makes no difference, you implied i was /stupid/ for saying it (educating me) and thereby created that impression) saying homophobic things, the outward expression may stop but discrimination will not stop because you've just perpetuated your exclusive rights to not be abused in a certain way

that is, you've discriminated yourself from every other demographic out there, and now you're complaining that society isnt taking it kindly

what im saying is toughen up and stop crying about how people treat you differently - maybe then people'll treat you for who you really are

sifFlammable
May 25th 2012


2741 Comments


yeah holy shit i forgot sorry ill stop repeating myself three times

Anthracks
May 25th 2012


8408 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

that is, you've discriminated yourself from every other demographic out there, and now you're complaining that society isnt taking it kindly



what im saying is toughen up and stop crying about how people treat you differently - maybe then people'll treat you for who you really are




not crying. im educating you and you don't seem to be letting anything in.



im not crying that im being discriminated against, nor have i complained about how people treat me, i'm using the discrimination i face as a basis for the fact that saying certain words is homophobic.



i am not singling out gay people among other groups who are discriminated against. I've used black people in my posts even though this argument began with and is exclusive to homophobia.



my argument: X word is homophobic and hateful

ur argument: lol ur discriminating urself



? probably the stupidest argument ive ever had on this site i hope youre happy. it seems like you enjoy just making up shit that i never said



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