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jtswope
July 18th 2017


5788 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This is anything but standard indie. The blend of influences here is so eclectic.

theBoneyKing
July 19th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

On third listen this is setting in some serious hooks, might be a 4.5. I've been wanting some atmospheric, textured indie rock recently and this really hits the spot.



@Lucid, I mean this might be entry-level in the sense that it's very well-known and highly regarded but there's definitely a lot more going on here than in the majority of indie rock that I've heard.

Conmaniac
July 19th 2017


27771 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

hopefully ill join ya after a couple more listens Boney

theBoneyKing
July 19th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I have no doubt this would be a 5 if I had listened to it 5 or 6 years ago when I was just getting to Arcade Fire, The National and so on.

klap
Emeritus
July 20th 2017


12410 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"entry-level" is the most reductive and meaningless critique lol

jtswope
July 20th 2017


5788 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Klap knows.

theBoneyKing
July 20th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah I've always hated the term entry-level because it runs on the assumption that obscure stuff is better than better known/acclaimed stuff and that you're somehow more "legitimate" a fan of a certain genre if you know lots of random/uncelebrated artists and eschew the popular ones.

Conmaniac
July 20th 2017


27771 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

hipster syndrome

Artuma
July 20th 2017


32828 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

it's not really about obscure albums being better than the popular ones, it's just that popular albums generally have a tendency to attract more people into the genre, hence they're often called "entry level" albums. simple as that

Conmaniac
July 20th 2017


27771 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

so when do I level up?

Artuma
July 20th 2017


32828 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

p.s. i wouldn't call this album entry level either, it's not necessarily easy to get into this

theBoneyKing
July 20th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

That may be the origin of the term Art but the term is always used in a derogatory or dismissive way which implies all the things I said above.

Conmaniac
July 20th 2017


27771 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

it could go either way tbh. all about context.

Artuma
July 20th 2017


32828 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

yeah i mean it's bound to happen since those particular albums are rarely seen very intricate (which, if you get into it, can be much more rewarding than simple songwriting). being "entry level" doesn't always need to be a derogatory term though, those albums always have their place in the genre 'spectrum'

theBoneyKing
July 20th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I mean yeah it could in theory not be used in a negative way but I've never seen it used as such.



Plus when you're talking about indie rock a lot of the albums/artists that people call entry level are actually fairly intricate or complex/acquired tastes.

Artuma
July 20th 2017


32828 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

well, we are talking about indie rock which is probably the most hipster genre out there, and you know hipsters



entry level is often seen as a bad tag but i've seen it used like "hey you wanna get into *insert genre*? jam *insert a bunch of entry level albums*, they are pretty accessible"

Conmaniac
July 20th 2017


27771 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

check the "emo lite" list Boney. I would call all those albums entry level but that's far from a negative thing since they all are amazing

theBoneyKing
July 20th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Idk I feel like accessible is a better term than entry level in those cases

luci
July 20th 2017


12844 Comments


yeah entry-level wasn't a criticism just an observation. i group this with funeral, in the aeroplane, illinois, yankee hotel foxtrot and other albums that people cluster in their all-time favs list until they decide to have a personality

Conmaniac
July 20th 2017


27771 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

yeah but it's all about ~entering~ into a new genre



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