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robertsona
Staff Reviewer
January 25th 2022


27643 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"To play devil's advocate... what if they still put part of proceeds towards these organizations and then didn't rename/re-art the work? Would the net good be lower or the same?"



it'd be a bit lower

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
January 25th 2022


27643 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

aw cmon what element of lettin the boys see some moolah is objectionable

Sinternet
Contributing Reviewer
January 25th 2022


26607 Comments


seems like the best way to handle it no? supporting organisations that help those communities and giving them a shout to others, what would you have them do otherwise?

it's not like this is an exceedingly racist album spreading bad ideas, they had an insensitive title, most likely fuelled more by the kind of artsy 'exotica' connotations that a lot of psych bands have used in the past and still do, it hasn't aged well but don't see it warrants anymore than a casual eyeroll

ArsMoriendi
January 25th 2022


41173 Comments


"In an interview with Brightest Young Things, he implied that he has synesthesia and associates sound with visuals.[14] He later clarified that although he has talked about it a lot in interviews he does not consider himself to have it."

-From Avey Tare's wikipedia page

Why lie about having synesthesia Avey

But yeah I agree that donating to groups is prob the best way genuine or not since it actually benefits those groups

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
January 25th 2022


27643 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I agree with sinternet that there's an extent to which throwing Real Money Dollars is Not Disingenuous by nature its why the show shark tank is good

ArsMoriendi
January 25th 2022


41173 Comments


Shark Tank rules, though Mr. Wonderful is annoying and Lori seems secretly evil

It's all about Barbara and Mark anyway

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
January 25th 2022


27643 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

those probably are the two best sharks aren't they yah



mark is awful but he's gotta be my favorite all told

Jasdevi087
January 25th 2022


8137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"In the case of The Simpsons episode, why not do what Looney Tunes did?



For all of their racist/controversial cartoons, they now put a disclaimer before it:"



ok, but what exactly is this doing to mitigate the damage this causes? being presented absent of any kind of educational context like this seems, to me at least, as much an empty gesture as you're claiming Animal Collective are making, just of a different variety



what does putting a "this is racist, but we aren't racist anymore" disclaimer before a racist cartoon (or, a padeophile's public image campaign) truly do to change how these texts are internalised through exposure and consumption, other than literally make salient that "some of this is racist" or "this guy probably sexually assaulted kids btw"? I imagine this doesn't do an awful lot for audience members who either: already know or are directly affected by them; I can't imagine it does much for the uninformed, who need to know why these depictions are problematic

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
January 25th 2022


27643 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

that post very much begs the question of what you suggest tbh. what do u suggest

ArsMoriendi
January 25th 2022


41173 Comments


Lemme try:

Disclaimers that are tailored to each piece of media that are thoughtful and maybe written by someone from the affected group, instead of a generalized one

How would that fare Jas?

Jasdevi087
January 25th 2022


8137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"being presented absent of any kind of educational context"



i would like to see more effort being made towards education about these topics and how they apply to the media in context, ie, how these stereotypes work mechanically within systems of oppression. because one of the main reasons so many people just brush this shit off is because it is an area about which they know frighteningly little and have not yet gained perspective of

Jasdevi087
January 25th 2022


8137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i do not have any specific prescriptive way in which this could be achieved, alas i am but a mere soyboy cuck on the internet with an arts degree





Ryus
February 3rd 2022


37256 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

new anco tomorrow and no hype around these parts. smh

Jasdevi087
February 3rd 2022


8137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Prestor John is one of the best thing they've done since Merriweather and I'm all about the Deakin harmonies, I'm hype

Sowing
Moderator
February 4th 2022


43996 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I think the hype for this band died quickly after MPP because outside of the Fall Be Kind EP, they've really kind of squandered their momentum (IMO). I still check all their works out of curiosity, but their releases have become less of a big event to me and more of a "oh god,, please don't suck" feeling.

Gyromania
February 4th 2022


37188 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

"the damage this causes?"



Lol

Gyromania
February 4th 2022


37188 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Sowing: yeah it's the same for me. Fall be kind was the last truly great thing they did. Always approach their albums hoping to get something out of them but they don't have the melodies or creativity of their earlier stuff

Ryus
February 4th 2022


37256 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

as a centipede hz lover and enjoyer of their last two EPs i never lost faith. new album rocks

Sowing
Moderator
February 4th 2022


43996 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Prester John is excellent



3 tracks into the new one and that was the first thing that really caught my attention

Sowing
Moderator
February 4th 2022


43996 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Also enjoyed Strung With Everything. Got a few tracks past that but then had to tend to screaming babies and toddlers and sort of lost track lol. Seems like it might be better than their last few but I need a distractionless chance to listen.



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