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Rik VII
November 27th 2018


4130 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

That sounds like you approach poetry in the way people are usually taught in school. I can't stand that. I hate it when people (like teachers *cough*) think that poetry is about using a bunch of stylistic devices. Like all art, it's about making people feel something. Not much into poetry myself (a passionate reader nonetheless, more into prose though), but I couldn't escape the pure might of Poe's language in The Raven. It's just like music, but in the form of language.

guitarded_chuck
November 27th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"a decent beat+mediocre lyrics will always trump a mediocre beat+decent lyrics on the enjoyment rating."



on YOUR enjoyment rating

guitarded_chuck
November 27th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"Most lyricist dont have anything insightful to say"



lol

guitarded_chuck
November 27th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"Music becomes more lyric-centered the more perceptible the lyrics are. So if a song is minimalistic, the vocals in the center and the lyrics distinguishable "



yes



plenty of hip hop is purposefully minimalistic in terms of the instrumental portion with heavy emphasis on lyrics



it becomes something more akin to pure poetry



that being said theres plenty of music which has heavy emphasis on both instrumentals and lyrics/concept



big obvious example: pink floyd

GhandhiLion
November 27th 2018


17793 Comments


@sandbitch please pm me and send cassette

SandwichBubble
November 27th 2018


13965 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

You guys are all goobers



@ghandhi it's just le tigre covers made around the time I was obsessed, trust me it's better buried

rabidfish
November 27th 2018


9025 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Never got poetry classes in school lol.

Agreed, poetry is like music in paper form, but it is so linked to language and tied so heavily to subjectivity in a way music isn't. There's a universality to music that scapes any form of interpretation. It IS the universal language, you can't communicate too much complex information or narrative, but emotion OH BOY can you communicate emotion so much more efficiently through music than you ever could through text, it's not even fair.

GhandhiLion
November 27th 2018


17793 Comments


@guitarded. Syb barrets lyricalism is still preped up by his unique voice tho. Whilst the childish lyrical surealism in music was rarely foud before, the protagonist is still his voice.

Rik VII
November 27th 2018


4130 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

@rabidfish: Yeah, I mean, nothing you wrote explicitly contradicts anything that I wrote - so agreed, to some degree. Music may not be quite as universal as you make it sound in your comment (since, for example, some different harmonic qualities are experienced differently throughout different cultures), but either way, the expressiveness of music is unmatched. After all, that's why it's so easy to make an emotional film scene using music. Because music is the easiest way to convey emotion. That doesn't mean that poetry can't reach comparable heights in its own way, of course.

rabidfish
November 27th 2018


9025 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I disagree, words cannot reach that same heights, at least not without using tone, entonation, rhythm and melody, which are all musical qualities.

GhandhiLion
November 27th 2018


17793 Comments


^^^^^goobers

Demon of the Fall
November 27th 2018


39133 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I think from the discussion we can safely deduce that music > other stuff

Rik VII
November 27th 2018


4130 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

That's why we're here

guitarded_chuck
November 27th 2018


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"@guitarded. Syb barrets lyricalism is still preped up by his unique voice tho. Whilst the childish lyrical surealism in music was rarely foud before, the protagonist is still his voice. "



are you genuinely pretending that i was referring to the one album syd era vs the 10 or whatever album roger era or



the concept and lyrics of dsotm/wywh/animals/the wall are an integral part of the whole package



whether one cares or listens to the lyrics vs the instrumentals is individualistic and depends on taste however there is no denying how the lyrics and concept tie together with the instrumentals

Trophycase
January 3rd 2019


1931 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

damn this closer is amazing

JohnnyoftheWell
January 3rd 2019


64287 Comments


closer is GOAT

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
January 3rd 2019


21029 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

It's probably their best song, at least top 5.

Trophycase
January 3rd 2019


1931 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

only downhill from here T_T

JohnnyoftheWell
January 3rd 2019


64287 Comments


Lorelei, Frou-Frou and Lazy Calm are probably their best tracks and holy shit what a trio

Mongi123
January 3rd 2019


22472 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Not really a bad track on here tbh it’s a classic



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